Not sure if you guys have followed much but since i moved from NY a few months ago and have family and friends there I still stay on top of stuff. The mandatory background checks on all sales with the SAFE act went into effect today. Sh*t is gonna start to get real I think.

 

Not sure if you have seen but the first citizen has been arrested for violating the SAFE act upstate and gun owners are not happy and looking to protest. Also not sure if you guys frequent Armslist.com but if you check out the NY for sale area some strong words are being put forth.

 

I think this one is very powerful and almost a little scary as to what may happen next. I know this guy is not alone.

 

http://www.armslist.com/posts/1267015/new-york-rifles-for-sale--message-to-state-troopers

 

-Rich

Wow. I guess they are monitoring and shutting down any posts they dont like which is nearly all of them on the NY for sale area. The link I had put was an Army Veterans post stating he will not comply and how the Police have abandoned and turned their back on citizens and the constitution. Here is one with a link to the arrest of the first citizen.

 

http://www.armslist.com/posts/1263626/buffalo-new-york-rifles-for-sale--man-charged-with-violating-safe-act-in-a-county-that-repealed-the-safe-act-

Do you have a link to the story of the guy arrested for violating the unsafe act?

 

I'm curious what he did....

"SILVER CREEK, New York (WGRZ) -- A Silver Creek man is the first person arrested and charged with violating the state's new gun laws.

Benjamin Wassell, 33, of Silver Creek is the first person in New York charged with violating the new SAFE Act.

An undercover investigation by the Attorney General's Office and State Police revealed Wassell is accused of trying to sell two illegal semiautomatic assault weapons to an undercover State Police investigator.

According to court documents, those weapons include an AR-15, nearly 300 rounds of ammo and six magazines and an AR-10 semi automatic rifle along with 31 rounds of ammo and one magazine.

Wassell is charged with three felonies related to the sale of illegal weapons and one misdemeanor.

That misdemeanor is related to the SAFE Act which went into effect while the investigation was taking place.

The SAFE Act bans people from knowingly selling assault weapons to people who are not legally allowed to have them.

During the investigation, prosecutors say the undercover officer told Wassell he or she was a convicted felon, meaning according to the SAFE Act, it was illegal for that person to buy the AR-10.

Investigators say the AR-10 fell into the assault weapon category covered by the new gun law because it had a specific type of pistol grip.

Prosecutors released Wassell on his on recognizance after he made his first court appearance in Hanover Town Court Thursday."

 

"According to the criminal complaint filed against Wassell in the Town of Hanover Court, Wassell arranged to sell an illegal DelTon DTI-15 assault rifle to the police officer in January.

The complaint also alleges that in February, Wassell sold an Armalite AR-10 Magnum Semiautomatic Rifle to the NYS Police officer, in violation of the newly enacted NY SAFE Act, which made it illegal to transfer, sell, exchange, and dispose of an Assault Weapon to a person unauthorized to possess such a weapon.

If convicted, Wassel could face up to seven years in prison.

Because the rifle was outfitted with additional features including a pistol grip, telescoping butt stock, and a bayonet mount, it is classified as an illegal assault weapon under the Penal Law. The criminal sale of an illegal weapon is a class D felony."

So, I'm against all the new laws, and horrified by what's happening in NY.

 

But how are people getting upset about a guy getting arrested for selling a firearm to a guy who told him they were convicted felons? Isn't that a crime everywhere?

Do you have a link to the story of the guy arrested for violating the unsafe act?

 

I'm curious what he did....

It was reported with pictures in the Buffalo News...Sorry I don't have a link.

wouldn't this guy have been arrested for knowingly selling to a prohibited person before the safe act?

this thread needs links

http://www.buffalone.../130319543/1003

 

The rifle and P-mags were illegal before the SAFE Act. And if you sell to someone who tells you he's a felon and won't pass a background check, you should go to jail just for being stupid in light of everything that's changed in New York. (He didn't know?) The media is trumpeting this as a SAFE Act win though. I'll bet Cuomo and Bloomberg are celebrating over martini's right now.

He loved him some tapco furniture. And why do they set it up like it's art or something? He's an idiot.

http://m.nypost.com/p/news/local/upstate_man_law_st_arrested_under_5fPlG1qCZvQWcMxgHOo9OP

Anybody else think "Budd's" comments didn't help our cause?

Message floating around on various N.Y. forums:.

 

Warning: The New York State Attorney General and the New York State Police are preparing undercover sting operations for selling assault weapons. Do not transfer or sell your assault weapon to anyone until the ban is overturned.

Did not know they set him up and he sold to a "convicted felon" which makes the guy kind of an idiot for going through with the sale. So for that he deserves to be persecuted. But there are a lot of strong sentiments and emotions being stirred up in NY state now which was the main reason for my post.

But there are a lot of strong sentiments and emotions being stirred up in NY state now which was the main reason for my post.

 

Well, you are absolutely correct with your original sentiment. The laws going into place in New York are heinous at best.

 

I don't think all the folks there fully understand the ramifications of such. As the onion gets peeled back, some folks are beginning to understand what they really mean. When FFL's realize they can't charge more than $10 for a private transfer, they will question why they are in business. When hundreds of thousands of weekend hunters head to the forests next deer season, those that wait until the last minute to buy a box of "thutty-thutty's" will find out they have to wait in line for a NICS check for a purchase, and businesses will not be able to handle the influx; reality will sink in. How many people are actually going to pony up and register their AR, M1A, AK, M1 Garand or M1 carbine with the state police, with the knowledge that when they pass on to the hearafter their firearm must be sold or relinquished?

 

The ridiculousness of the "unintended consequences" will prove they weren't unintended at all.

Message floating around on various N.Y. forums:.

 

Warning: The New York State Attorney General and the New York State Police are preparing undercover sting operations for selling assault weapons. Do not transfer or sell your assault weapon to anyone until the ban is overturned.

 

Thank God New York is so safe that they have no other better use for their time. It must be a veritable utopia over there.

Last week the 7-round-only magazine sales went into effect as well as no more private sales of firearms. Every firearm transaction has to go through an FFL now.

 

New York is was such a contrast. The Adirondacks could be described as utopia if you like wilderness and bumping into an occasional moose, while NYC is a different wilderness. And contrary to belief, some of their firearm laws were more liberal than New Jersey's. Their laws now are a slap in the face to their law-abiding citizens.

I wish we had a more sympathetic poster boy. This guy is a crook. We need a martyr. [to anyone from DHS, I mean an innocent person prosecuted under he sillier parts of the law, not the jihadist type.]

As much as I want to help repeal SAFE... I am still on the fence about helping this guy out. Selling to felon? I do wonder if there is more to the story...

 

http://www.gofundme.com/2clmcw?pc=fb_d

 

 

http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130320/CITYANDREGION/130329919/1010

 

 

Was he doing this as a rebellion? Or just to make a quick buck...

For 'edumacational' purposes only, take a brief read through the new SAFE Act site they recently updated after the changes since January. It's interesting. http://www.governor....eact/gun-reform

For 'edumacational' purposes only, take a brief read through the new SAFE Act site they recently updated after the changes since January. It's interesting. http://www.governor....eact/gun-reform

 

Am I reading this right? You can fully load up your 10 rd mag at the range as its the only exempted place listed so not at home for hd?!

 

I am so heartened that this law will stop the mentally ill and CRIMINALS from buying a gun.

 

A law that works on criminals.

 

Cuomo must be a brilliant legislator. First time in history that a law worked to stop a criminal. We gotta get him in congress. Or even president. Imagine what he could accomplish? Maybe a law that stops murderers? Or government corruption?

Putting the law aside, but am I the only one that's nervous to sell a gun, assualt rifle, and hundreds of rounds of ammo to a convicted felon?