Yep, we're #49, not surprising there.

Also not surprising is that AZ, VT, AK and UT are the top 4.

 

 

http://www.gunsandammo.com/2013/03/14/ga-ranks-the-best-states-for-gun-owners-in-2013/

Damn, why do I have to live here.........

Damn, why do I have to live here.........

Rhetorical question. At least I have a patch in AZ.

We suck

Kentucky looks pretty good

 

 

Alaska has like one or two really bad gun laws, I just can't remember what they are at the moment. Vermont would be OK but no cans is a complete deal killer. Plus, they are one vote away from becoming NY. The days of me believing there are good liberals and bad liberals are over. They all move en mass when they get perturbed, just like lemmings.

Kentucky looks pretty good

 

 

Damn, Kirsti looks pretty damn good.

 

Reason I love Az so much among other things. It's the most civilized state we have.

 

 

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Reason I love Az so much among other things. It's the most civilized state we have.

 

 

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We love AZ too. Did vacation 2 years in a row out there and going back again in 2 months. Beautiful state, as is UT.

 

Love the Sedona area. We've been thinking about buying a place there.

I love the heat, so thinking Cave Creek area... What I like about it besides the obvious is that you really can have almost any season with a few hours drive.

Hell, if I could live without modern technology, I'd move to Tombstone and be that gimpy Festus type charcter walking the streets... Lol.

If you get a chance, go to Williams and take the steam train to the Grand Canyon.

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We love AZ too. Did vacation 2 years in a row out there and going back again in 2 months. Beautiful state, as is UT.

 

Love the Sedona area. We've been thinking about buying a place there.

 

 

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I love the heat, so thinking Cave Creek area... What I like about it besides the obvious is that you really can have almost any season with a few hours drive.

Hell, if I could live without modern technology, I'd move to Tombstone and be that gimpy Festus type charcter walking the streets... Lol.

If you get a chance, go to Williams and take the steam train to the Grand Canyon.

Sorry for being off topic here OP..

 

 

 

 

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Lol, that's ok. I'd rather be in AZ than NJ. If I could get a job in the Sedona area without the HUGE pay cut, I'd be there.

 

Tombstone was pretty neat. I haven't been to Williams, may go this time. Been to South Rim once and North Rim twice. Monument Valley, Canyon De Chelly, Winslow, Page. Pretty place. Painted Desert.

You'll like Williams. One road in and out. Just west of Flagstaff... Everyone closed till 5pm except weekends. Has a rebuilt old steam train converted to diesel and Coachman cars... on a privately owned old Sante Fe RR track hat serves one purpose. Be prepared to be entertained on board and robbed in the middle of the desert by bad guys on horseback. I really enjoyed it and if you have kids, they will too. Look them up on the net. Was a great time.

 

 

Lol, that's ok. I'd rather be in AZ than NJ. If I could get a job in the Sedona area without the HUGE pay cut, I'd be there.

 

Tombstone was pretty neat. I haven't been to Williams, may go this time. Been to South Rim once and North Rim twice. Monument Valley, Canyon De Chelly, Winslow, Page. Pretty place. Painted Desert.

 

 

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Damn, Kirsti looks pretty damn good.

 

She a pretty good shot as well, look for the Kirsti Rocks the SKS video and I think her Birthday video where she is shooting off there deck. She has a bunch of them, IIRC I think she does a shotgun video as well. You could tell she actually enjoys it. YouTube is slooow here today otherwise I post them for you but that’s another story for another day.

 

Anyway back to the topic. Yep, whole different ballgame in other states. it’s almost like we here in NJ live in another country.

It's tough to un-fook corruption after all these years... But now the cement has harden all the way down. Don't see it happening in my life time.

 

 

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NJ = 12% gun ownership. That's terrible. No wonder why we cant make any progress.

You'll like Williams. One road in and out. Just west of Flagstaff... Everyone closed till 5pm except weekends. Has a rebuilt old steam train converted to diesel and Coachman cars... on a privately owned old Sante Fe RR track hat serves one purpose. Be prepared to be entertained on board and robbed in the middle of the desert by bad guys on horseback. I really enjoyed it and if you have kids, they will too. Look them up on the net. Was a great time.

 

 

 

 

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Well, fortunately, no kids here!!! Yeah, I've heard of Williams and the train ride, heard it was fun. Gonna see if the girlfriend wants to go back to the South Rim, if so, that's the way we will go this time.

 

Thanks John.

NJ = 12% gun ownership. That's terrible. No wonder why we cant make any progress.

 

I am not so sure that is the reason.

 

Look at this:

 

http://usliberals.ab...-Population.htm

• 40. Delaware - 25.5%
  
• 41. Florida - 24.5% (Battleground state. See Florida in 2012 Elections.)
  
• 42. California - 21.3%
  
• 42. Maryland - 21.3%
  
• 44. Illinois - 20.2%
  
• 45. New York - 18%
  
• 46. Connecticut - 16.7%
  
• 47. Rhode Island - 12.8%
  
• 48. Massachusetts - 12.6%
  
• 49. New Jersey - 12.3%
  
• 50. Hawaii - 6.7%
  

Yes, we are next to last but part of that is because we have very restrictive laws.

 

But we are not far from CT which has no mag capacity limits and shall issue (in practice) CCW. They have an AWB but it is weak like dishwater. How do they do this? One word - constitution. Their state constitution guarantees the right to keep and bear arms. “Every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state" and they have strong grassroots activism.

 

What is also puzzling is how in MA they are right near to us in gun ownership numbers and people have carry permits. They have a lot of restrictions and 10 round limits but non-cops can get CCW. Even people with minor criminal records (juvenile and things like simple drug possession) can get CCW (not that I want criminals to own guns).

 

I have hope if something comes down from SCOTUS we could see real change in this state. But I wonder if the stars aligned if we could get a similar constitutional amendment passed in NJ. Really long impossible shot but who knows.

 

Yes, we are next to last but part of that is because we have very restrictive laws.

 

 

 

 

I agree. I believe most people in this State don't think they are even allowed to own guns.

 

So now, we have approx 8 million people in this State. How many are ineligible to vote (under 18)? 2,000,000? 3,000,000? Subtract that from the 8,000,000 and we have a voting gun ownership population of 16-20%. Better but not not ideal.

Yea, but that isn't even accurate, because even less bother to vote.

 

 

 

I agree. I believe most people in this State don't think they are even allowed to own guns.

 

So now, we have approx 8 million people in this State. How many are ineligible to vote (under 18)? 2,000,000? 3,000,000? Subtract that from the 8,000,000 and we have a voting gun ownership population of 16-20%. Better but not not ideal.

 

 

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I'm not surprised, but I would love to live in Utah