Link: http://abclocal.go.c...Fnational_world

 

 

CLAY, N.Y. (AP) - March 15, 2013 (WPVI) -- Police have accused a man of fatally stabbing a school librarian and raping her child after carjacking them at a central New York mall.

 

They say the woman was leaving a gymnastics class with her 10-year-old daughter when the attacker stopped them at the mall in Clay at about 9 p.m. Thursday.

Troopers say 29-year-old David Renz raped the girl and killed the woman in the Syracuse suburb. The girl managed to escape.

 

 

 

***Where are the ass-holes that want to save at least 1 child from having to suffer?

Sure it is, and if this was NJ, they will probably issue the permit posthumously.

Read about this the day it happened. Felt it was just to disgusting to "share" amongst the ranks... Either way. "They" will never look at this as a reasons to conceal carry or carry in general. They'll say. Just call 911. The cops have guns and are here to protect. Why do you need to have a gun? Fu-king BS

Sure it is, and if this was NJ, they will probably issue the permit posthumously.

Unnecessary. If she'd been lucky enough to live in Nj, she would have had. 94% chance of getting a CCW.

This animal was already in the system and being monitored and on probation. Authorities were trying to figure out how he removed his band monitor just prior to committing this horrendous crime spree. The mother had multiple stab wounds before she died. The ten-year-old escaped and was in the hospital for treatments. Whoever let this POS walk amongst us has blood on his or her attorney slithering scales and should join him. It was refreshing to see that he hasn't made friends on his first day in jail and will most-likely have to be placed in expensive solitary confinement.

I can only hope that in the showers they give him the treatment. However outside of NYC it was quite easy to attain a CCW. Was is the key word.

I noticed Gov. Cuomo didn't helicopter up to Clay to lend his support after this incident, although it seemed imperative he show the day of the shooting in Herkimer.

 

http://www.cbs6albany.com/news/top-stories/stories/gov-cuomo-visits-site-herkimer-shootings-4-died-6840.shtml

 

 

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/03/woman_found_stabbed_and_bleedi.html

Once a dictator-statist on a mission, always a dictator-statist on a mission.

I can only hope that in the showers they give him the treatment. However outside of NYC it was quite easy to attain a CCW. Was is the key word.

 

I don't know if NY SAFE changed anything (probably did) but NYS permits are issued by local judges. There are pro gun judges who will happily issue unrestricted permits and others who will issue hunting and target only, or premises and MAYBE lift the restrictions after a period of time. Even if you have restrictions on your permit you won't get in trouble for possession like NJ if you break the restrictions unless it's somewhere like NYC. The judge may revoke your permit though. Get this - you can carry on your way to a range. So a lot of people with restricted permits just left a range bag in their trunk, lol, because they were always going to the range. *wink wink* Some places like Long Island are more strict though and have the same standard as NJ justifiable need.

This story is terrible. So horrible my stomach is twisting. That poor family.

Why these people are allowed to live is something I can't grasp. Then again I think every convicted rapist, murderer and molester should be fed a few rounds. The idea of rehabilitation is just reprehensible to me.

You will see this again, the push in "criminal justice" is to give everyone an electronic bracelet instead of jail/prison.

And people wonder why I believe in the "Death Penalty" !!!!!

And people wonder why I believe in the "Death Penalty" !!!!!

+1

I'm sure whom ever decided to let this subhuman pile of excrement out in the first place will argue that justice was served, or he paid his debt to society. I'm curious to know...Now that the system has yet again proven to be a failure, where does the little girl, and the family go for justice? Will the people responsible for letting this scum out on the street be held responsible? Never, they will never be held responsible, because they can simply say that they were just doing their job, or that sometimes the system doesn't work like it should. Meanwhile the criminal's civil rights are protected at all costs.

And people wonder why I believe in the "Death Penalty" !!!!!

 

Again, the libtards say that the death penalty is not a deterrent. If this scum was executed prior to this I think it would have deterred him from killnig this woman. But then again, just my $0.02

NJ will never...IMO issue any CCW permits to it's citizens who are not politically connected.....most FFL dealers cannot get one unless you know the right person.....Certified Firearms Instructors can't get one unless you know the right person....so what chance does Joe Public have here............ZERO.

NJ will never...IMO issue any CCW permits to it's citizens who are not politically connected.....most FFL dealers cannot get one unless you know the right person.....Certified Firearms Instructors can't get one unless you know the right person....so what chance does Joe Public have here............ZERO.

 

Unless you get kidnapped twice, dragged halfway across the country, manage to make it out alive then sue in federal court. Then they'll issue your permit.

Again, the libtards say that the death penalty is not a deterrent. If this scum was executed prior to this I think it would have deterred him from killnig this woman. But then again, just my $0.02

 

Since the libtards don't have the stones to do it, at least issue CCWs so some of us can do it. I wonder how many violent criminals are taken off the streets each year when they are justifiably killed by a citizen with a CCW. Any stats anywhere?

Since the libtards don't have the stones to do it, at least issue CCWs so some of us can do it. I wonder how many violent criminals are taken off the streets each year when they are justifiably killed by a citizen with a CCW. Any stats anywhere?

 

This would be very good information to have!

Since the libtards don't have the stones to do it, at least issue CCWs so some of us can do it. I wonder how many violent criminals are taken off the streets each year when they are justifiably killed by a citizen with a CCW. Any stats anywhere?

I think a better metric would be number of crimes averted. Otherwise, you get dragged into, "a gun in the home is x times as likely to kill an acquaintance (like a fellow drug dealer) than a criminal."

I think a better metric would be number of crimes averted. Otherwise, you get dragged into, "a gun in the home is x times as likely to kill an acquaintance (like a fellow drug dealer) than a criminal."

 

Very good point, and wouldn't, and wouldn't a drug dealer killing another drug dealer count as +2 in th emetric column?

Very good point, and wouldn't, and wouldn't a drug dealer killing another drug dealer count as +2 in th emetric column?

No, of course not. That's one more victim of society tragically cut down before society gave him a chance for rehabilitation and a tear-jerk redemption movie.

Link: http://abclocal.go.c...Fnational_world

CLAY, N.Y. (AP) - March 15, 2013 (WPVI) -- Police have accused a man of fatally stabbing a school librarian and raping her child after carjacking them at a central New York mall.

They say the woman was leaving a gymnastics class with her 10-year-old daughter when the attacker stopped them at the mall in Clay at about 9 p.m. Thursday.

Troopers say 29-year-old David Renz raped the girl and killed the woman in the Syracuse suburb. The girl managed to escape.

***Where are the ass-holes that want to save at least 1 child from having to suffer?

 

Sorry, New Yorkers, like those in NJ, will have to wait requisite 9-11 minutes for the officials to show up after their call to 911 since you will not permit law abiding citizens to CCW in your state.

Seriously, someone from the FBI should run the stats. Everyone always spouts 11,000 people are killed by guns annually. If 9000 of them are felons, don't ask me to shed any tears.

The good new is his fellow convicts will treat him hopefully 100 times worse then he did that poor family

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/16/man-accused-killing-woman-raping-child-in-new-york-mall-carjacking/?intcmp=obinsite