I talked to the trooper handling FPID applications at the NJSP Sussex Barracks today. He said my file was sent to Trenton. He mention they are backlogged down there and have about 20,000 FPID\P2P files in the pipeline. He did say as soon as they come in they call you the same day to pick up next morning. So at least they are being prompt at the local barracks.

That is a big number of applications, hopefully all these people become active in protecting the second amendment. I am surprised when I talk to other firearm owners usually coworkers and they really have no idea of the laws being passed. Actually what I am planning on doing is when my permits come in I will be buying my references a membership to the NJ2AS as a Thank You to them. I feel that a lot of gun owners just buy a firearm or two then let them sit and in the meantime their rights are taken away because they are complacent and are not active. Hopefully my plan of getting them involved helps.

Maybe the gun culture in NJ is changing. One can only hope

Got the same info when I talked to a trooper at the Hamilton Barracks last week. Although he didn't give me an absolute number he did say that the volume was at least 5 times the level he is used to seeing.

Got the same info when I talked to a trooper at the Hamilton Barracks last week. Although he didn't give me an absolute number he did say that the volume was at least 5 times the level he is used to seeing.

 

That's consistent with what my LPD told me.

I wonder how many are first time FPIDs. If it's just P2P it could just be people buying up before an anticipated ban.

Is that total for the state, or only those that are done by the state police as opposed to towns that handle there own. If just the state police then the actual number is much much larger.

Is that total for the state, or only those that are done by the state police as opposed to towns that handle there own. If just the state police then the actual number is much much larger.

 

He said that is the number in the pipeline. I assume that means the "pile" it goes on down in Trenton after the local barracks/station have completed all the necessary steps on their side. How I understand it is all files (even non NJSP towns) go to Trenton for background checks then sent back up to the local level for final approval/denial and to produce the card and permits.

 

That's how I understand it.

 

Ray

Shows haw full of crap the democrats are when they claim that the vast majority of the public supports their "common sense" legislation (aka attack on gun owner' civil rights). If that was the case then why are there people lining up to apply for FID/P2Ps, and gun dealer's shelves around the state (and the country for that matter) are practically empty. But then theyll claim its just the small minority of gun nuts panic buying. Our ranks are probably going to swell with new gun owners in the coming weeks/months

Wouldn't it be great if, as a public safety initiative, we could get PDs to hand out a list of training organizations with each FID? It could do a lot of good, from an education perspective, to get these new owners into Gun for Hire, where they can learn about both gun safety and the political environment.

If 20k is just the backlog, I'd love to know what is the absolute number of new FIDs. This is a several percent increase in our ranks. A very good thing. My concern with a lot of inexperienced gun owners is accidents.

 

Maybe in addition to the training places, they could also include a link to a non-commercial gun safety web site.

If 20k is just the backlog, I'd love to know what is the absolute number of new FIDs. This is a several percent increase in our ranks. A very good thing. My concern with a lot of inexperienced gun owners is accidents.

 

Maybe in addition to the training places, they could also include a link to a non-commercial gun safety web site.

 

You are correct there are lots of new people, and lots that just go out and rent a gun and are clueless about what they are doing with it and where they point it. There is a free gun safety web site - its called Youtube. I am serious. Before I picked up a gun I spent hours watching all sorts of videos many by Hickok45 and learned an awful lot before I even touched a gun. I would highly suggest all new shooters do that.

This may sound crazy. But hopefully there is a silver lining to all of this. With 20k in apps, the people that process them, along every step of the way, are getting a lot of practice on the whole application process. That could help in the long run.

Lots of applications equals continued demand for guns and especially for ammo.

 

You are correct there are lots of new people, and lots that just go out and rent a gun and are clueless about what they are doing with it and where they point it. There is a free gun safety web site - its called Youtube. I am serious. Before I picked up a gun I spent hours watching all sorts of videos many by Hickok45 and learned an awful lot before I even touched a gun. I would highly suggest all new shooters do that.

But YouTube doesn't give them exposure to the local gun community and local issues the way a trip to GFH would.

 

Even crazier, submit a "safety" bill requiring PDs to hand out this educational material along with the FID

And for this reason alone--The Police Departments should be CLAMORING to revise the process to eliminate this stupid paper based system. EVERYONE who has an outstanding FID should call at day 31 to demand their licenses. Drown the system--they can't throw "everyone's apps who irritates them to the bottom of the pile" if everyone called.

if this gives some perspective, Franklin has been doing like 50 a month i understand.... when before they did like 5

Two letters BS!

Anyone know if it's true that it costs the state roughly $300 for each FID and P2P? Between man hours and equipment?

Anyone know if it's true that it costs the state roughly $300 for each FID and P2P? Between man hours and equipment?

 

I wouldn't doubt it. In terms of fully loaded costs (pay + benefits), that is probably around 2 to 2.5 hours labor max for a well paid employee with benefits. I would think the total handling time is close to that when you consider background checks etc.