NJEA is the number one contributor to Cryan's campaign.

 

I wonder how parents would feel about their kids' teachers supporting this creep.

 

I'm going to speak with my son's school principal to see if the membership can make their disapproval known. If I get an answer I don't like, I'll be sure to let fellow parents know that their principal supports a man who uses government property and time to indulge his perversions.

I don't think they care. It's all about the $$$.

That's not really how it works.

My wife's a teacher, and she is NOT a NJEA (or AFT)...

 

Honestly - a few teachers will have no impact on the NJEA leadership.....

the NJEA are so completely pro-Dem, it doesnt matter what a couple parents say to their school administrators.. they also wont get their teachers or admins to make their feeling known.. the NJEA puts a lot of pressure on their members to "toe the line"..

Most teachers only pay the njea dues (mandatory, they dont get to opt out) and have no say in union decisions. Who the union supports is generally decided by the heads of the union and not by its members. After what christie pulled with public education in this state, the union and its members are often at odds. With the exception of fighting to retain some salary and benefits. Principals (and all administrators) are not members of the union.

Most teachers only pay the njea dues (mandatory, they dont get to opt out) and have no say in union decisions. Who the union supports is generally decided by the heads of the union and not by its members. After what christie pulled with public education in this state, the union and its members are often at odds. With the exception of fighting to retain some salary and benefits. Principals (and all administrators) are not members of the union.

 

Not true. Teachers need not be part of the NJEA and do not need to join the union or pay the dues. It's voluntary, but encouraged (heavily). I have first hand experience, not friend of a friend stuff, so I know this to be true.

Absolutly false....12 years in the classroom and you are required to pay....if you "opt out" they take 80% of the dues and you are still bound by any union negotiations and dont get their support(not that they provide any!)

Whatever, maybe different in your district. Double checked - you are correct.

 

Stupid rule tho.

Its not a district thing. Its an NJEA thing. For the record I completely disagree with the policy. Wherever the union gets in, it is policy.

Its not a district thing. Its an NJEA thing. For the record I completely disagree with the policy. Wherever the union gets in, it is policy.

 

+1, i'm not part of the union, i get harassed all the time about it, i still pay a portion... there is no opt-out... you either join or you don't. It could be a district thing, but afaik that is common practice... Some districts who hire employees off salary -benefits may not deduct simply because they pay their employees/aides/extra's so little and they don't get a "real" contract.

 

Big reason i don't join is because they don't give a rats ass what i have to say.... even if i agree with some of the stuff they do, and they are more of a NRA type organization then NJ2AS, combating legislation more than helping individual districts. i also don't approve of the people they donate too, i won't willingly give them any money.

My sister in law is a new teacher and had to pay into the union which she found outrageous because she does not support the NJEA and their practices (good for her but crap that she has no choice!).

Isn't NJ a closed shop state anyways? Or is that different with the NJEA?

So, if they're so unpopular, how are a small number of members able to pretty much ignore the mandate of the membership?

So, if they're so unpopular, how are a small number of members able to pretty much ignore the mandate of the membership?

 

There is no "mandate". but like many Unions, your paying either way(this is actually state law i believe up to 85% of the dues).... if a few more bucks gets your membership people see no reason NOT to join.. the issue is with the people who know they are getting f'ed over by policies... like when the gov. wanted incentives for needed teachers they NJEA said NO, its not fair to other teachers.... The NJEA essentially fought against me since i hold certification in a high needs area. Just so a gym teacher could feel good knowing they make the same $$, but they dont understand there is competition when hiring a gym teacher, they get to pick the best out of 100/200... they need more competition in math and science, they need more people applying so they can get better candidates...

 

It's pretty difficult to get certified in certain area's, paying people to put in the time and effort is a good incentive to get more/better people certified.. Most people who are good in math/science go into the private sector where $$ is or at least the prospect of $$... I actively search for private jobs all the time, i love teaching, but at the same time i enjoy lots of things.

 

A big one is when good/great teachers are held to the same standard as bad ones, and both sides come up with ridiculous systems to evaluate performance.

NJEA is the number one contributor to Cryan's campaign.

 

I wonder how parents would feel about their kids' teachers supporting this creep.

 

I'm going to speak with my son's school principal to see if the membership can make their disapproval known. If I get an answer I don't like, I'll be sure to let fellow parents know that their principal supports a man who uses government property and time to indulge his perversions.

 

I'm a high school teacher. The NJEA is endorsing Barbara Buono for governor (I get their text-alerts on my phone). If you check out the sponsors of anti-gun bills, you'll find her name alongside Cryan's. The NJEA is pushing its members to vote for Buono, so it has nothing to do with school administration. Also, school administration (at least where I work) likes to keep politics out of the building, even if it's more about a creep than politics.

 

Most of my colleagues are anti-gun. I'll test the water here and there and I never get any favorable responses. Most of them fall under the usual fearful or ignorant categories when it comes to firearms. The NJEA wasn't able to keep Christy from winning last time, so I'm not sure how much of a threat they'll pose this time around.