Tell me more about these rifles. I see them everywhere but no one

ever seems to talk about them. Are they good, bad, accurate, reliable?

What are the pros and cons? How are they compared to the AK and AR

platform?

 

Super accurate (match barrel) and very well built. Beautifully machined aluminum forend. Shoots both 308 and 7.62 (although different points of impact). Very fun gun. Makes a cool "sproing" noise every time you fire it because of the recoil spring. Is easy to take down into three components (stock, grip/receiver and barrel). It has fluted chambers, which makes for excellent extraction. I have heard varying reports on what that does to brass reloadability. I never tried. The best part is... it eats shitty steel cased ammo with no problems. These days, Wolf/Tula is as close as you get to a bargain in 308. If you have the scratch, I highly recommend one. I only sold mine to buy a fancy shotgun and because I have another 308 autoloaders I like a little better (i.e. a CMP M1 Garand in 308).

Ira at Legend Firearms has a few on hand. PM me if you need his contact info. He sent an e-mail out this very evening about having a few. Coincidence?

great gun,,, the only bad is, it F's up the brass

Super accurate (match barrel) and very well built. Beautifully machined aluminum forend. Shoots both 308 and 7.62 (although different points of impact). Very fun gun. Makes a cool "sproing" noise every time you fire it because of the recoil spring. Is easy to take down into three components (stock, grip/receiver and barrel). It has fluted chambers, which makes for excellent extraction. I have heard varying reports on what that does to brass reloadability. I never tried. The best part is... it eats shitty steel cased ammo with no problems. These days, Wolf/Tula is as close as you get to a bargain in 308. If you have the scratch, I highly recommend one. I only sold mine to buy a fancy shotgun and because I have another 308 autoloaders I like a little better (i.e. a CMP M1 Garand in 308).

Ira at Legend Firearms has a few on hand. PM me if you need his contact info. He sent an e-mail out this very evening about having a few. Coincidence?

 

Haha, I asked cause I always sees he has them for sale and I got his e-mail just now.

 

How does it mess up the brass exactly?

 

How heavy is it compared to an AR or AK?

Haha, I asked cause I always sees he has them for sale and I got his e-mail just now.

 

How does it mess up the brass exactly?

The chamber leaves faint spiral longitudinal lines etched in the outside of the brass. There is a member here who said he never had a problem reloading with spent cases from the PTR though.

 

How heavy is it compared to an AR or AK?

Remember AR and AK are rifles built for intermediate cartridges like 5.56 and 7.62x39. The PTR shoots full powered rifle caliber. I think that is only a little heavier than an AR in the 7.62 caliber. If I remember correctly, mine was about 9 pounds without optics.

U got Ira's email too I guess LOL

One more question: Is 7.62 NATO the same thing as 7.62 x 39 (ie AK Rounds)? Is it kinda like 223 vs 556?

One more question: Is 7.62 NATO the same thing as 7.62 x 39 (ie AK Rounds)? Is it kinda like 223 vs 556?

 

I believe it's closer to .308

 

 

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Its a great rifle unless you want to reload your brass is what I understand from research. The chambers are fluted to aid in brass extraction, so leaves flute marks on the brass. Also the extractor/deflector appears to really chew up the rim.

 

Was the main reason that I never purchased one as I reload for .308.

One more question: Is 7.62 NATO the same thing as 7.62 x 39 (ie AK Rounds)? Is it kinda like 223 vs 556?

 

not even close >>> 7.62x51 NATO (civilian version .308 which is a lil different)

 

the closest american calibers to 7.62x39 would be 30-30 or 6.8 SPC

What are these things going for nowadays? I'm almost afraid to even ask.....

$1400ish

That's only about double what they were 6months ago......not bad.

That's only about double what they were 6months ago......not bad.

 

The nicer Jersey compliant models were going for about $1200. Non compliant for $1000, and PTR made on with cheap front handguards you see on CDNN for $900.

Great gun one of my absolute favorites had mine for a few years the bolt assm. on mine is stamped HK 65 meaning true HK parts. Has fixed comp. 18" barrel been feeding it wolf steel ammo because she destroys the casings. Just a side note PTR will be leaving CONN.

I had one for a lttle while. I liked it. I had no AR at the time so I sol it go buy a AR. The only down side for me was the weight. Its a heavy rifle, But thats just me. Magazines are dirt cheap.

I really wanted one but could not get any in stock when I was ready to purchase. I settled for an AR & I'm very happy only due to cost of ammo. One day she will be mine.

I will buy one of these in the near future. If for no other reason than their decision to leave that $hithole of a state CT.

That's only about double what they were 6months ago......not bad.

 

PTRs were not $700 six months ago. Those might have been CETMEs or Century builds, which could have been had for even a buck less in some cases.

 

I loved those sexy HK advertisements in the gun mags in the early 80s. We were all hooked on HK-91s and 94s.

 

Keep in mind everything HK is either cheap and useless or extremely expensive and awkward. They are the anti-AR. You have to pay money for anything you want to attach to it or any changes you want to make to it.

I am pretty sure back in Oct.-Nov. Sarco had PTR-91s for ~$800.

 

I honestly don't know enough about PTR-91s to say if they were CETME or Century builds. I just remember reading PTR-91 on the tag along with the accompanying price tag.

 

Doesn't really matter now, "cheap priced" guns are a thing of the past. It will be quite some time before sale prices maybe go back to what we remember them at pre-election.

I was seriously considering a PTR 91c in the late summer/early fall. I was very close to buying one when I read many reports about them destroying spent brass. I stopped in my local shop and he had just received some Rock River .308's, so I took that to be a sign.

What are these things going for nowadays? I'm almost afraid to even ask.....

 

I paid about $1200 OTD at the end of October for the PTR 91C.

I am pretty sure back in Oct.-Nov. Sarco had PTR-91s for ~$800.

 

I honestly don't know enough about PTR-91s to say if they were CETME or Century builds. I just remember reading PTR-91 on the tag along with the accompanying price tag.

 

Doesn't really matter now, "cheap priced" guns are a thing of the past. It will be quite some time before sale prices maybe go back to what we remember them at pre-election.

 

 

The ones that Sarco had were JLD rifles left over from when PTR took them over.