I know the law states that minors can not gain access to a loaded firearm.

 

1. What if the firearm isn't loaded?

 

I can remember when I was in 7th grade, my friends father had a collectible lever action in an open glass case on the wall.

We were told not to touch it, not becuase is was loaded, but because he did not want marks on it.

We were able to handle it when he was home.

I never touched it when he wasnt home, but I did want to.

My friend was deathly scared to touch it also, and didnt as far as I know.

 

We all had access to it, and from what I remember, there was no ammo in the house. The guy never hunted and for all that I know just had this one

rifle that was passed down to him.

 

2. Can you have a locked safe in your house that a minor can not open, but he/she knows where it is and can have access to? Such as in a living room?

No law forbidding it.

I know the law states that minors can not gain access to a loaded firearm.

 

1. What if the firearm isn't loaded?

 

I can remember when I was in 7th grade, my friends father had a collectible lever action in an open glass case on the wall.

We were told not to touch it, not becuase is was loaded, but because he did not want marks on it.

We were able to handle it when he was home.

I never touched it when he wasnt home, but I did want to.

My friend was deathly scared to touch it also, and didnt as far as I know.

 

We all had access to it, and from what I remember, there was no ammo in the house. The guy never hunted and for all that I know just had this one

rifle that was passed down to him.

 

2. Can you have a locked safe in your house that a minor can not open, but he/she knows where it is and can have access to? Such as in a living room?

 

I was brought up in a house that had guns. Although I was under strict orders never to touch a gun without asking, I was also told that if I ever wanted to touch them, hold them or shoot them to just ask. My father stored the ammo away from the guns and it was never an issue with me, my brother or sister.

 

The guns also wern't locked and I was actually the one who suggested trigger locks, probably when I was 12 or so. We did do plenty of shooting at Cherry Ridge, sometinmes 3 or 4 times a week.

I know the law states that minors can not gain access to a loaded firearm.

 

 

What law is that? I see minors shooting at the range all the time - with adult supervision.

I can't believe what I'm reading here! Don't all of you remember signing the paperwork about kids and guns when you picked-up your gun(s)?

 

The LAW says ACCESS, doesn't say anything about loaded or unloaded, so ACCESS is a crime by itself!

 

If ANYTHING IS IN A LOCKED SAFE, why post a moot question?

 

Supervision by adults is covered under the law, otherwise we'd all be locked-up!

 

EDUCATE YOURSELVES PEOPLE! Some of you scare me!

What law is that? I see minors shooting at the range all the time - with adult supervision.

 

I am talking about in the In the home and unsupervised.

 

My stuff is locked up and unloaded.

I can't believe what I'm reading here! Don't all of you remember signing the paperwork about kids and guns when you picked-up your gun(s)?

 

The LAW says ACCESS, doesn't say anything about loaded or unloaded, so ACCESS is a crime by itself!

 

If ANYTHING IS IN A LOCKED SAFE, why post a moot question?

 

Supervision by adults is covered under the law, otherwise we'd all be locked-up!

 

EDUCATE YOURSELVES PEOPLE! Some of you scare me!

 

NJ Statute: 2C:58-15. Minor’s access to a loaded firearm; penalty, conditions.

 

a. A person who knows or reasonably should know that a minor is likely to gain access to a loaded firearm at a premises under the person’s control commits a disorderly persons offense if a minor gains access to the firearm, unless the person:

(1) Stores the firearm in a securely locked box or container;

(2) Stores the firearm in a location which a reasonable person would believe to be secure; or

(3) Secures the firearm with a trigger lock.

b. This section shall not apply:

(1) To activities authorized by section 14 of P.L.1979, c.179, (C.2C:58-6.1), concerning the lawful use of a firearm by a minor; or

(2) Under circumstances where a minor obtained a firearm as a result of an unlawful entry by any person.

c. As used in this act, “minor” means a person under the age of 16.

I love letter © above where they change the legal definition of minor. I guess it is sort of like the states definition of "Instant" with regard to nics.

NJ Statute: 2C:58-15. Minor’s access to a loaded firearm; penalty, conditions.

 

a. A person who knows or reasonably should know that a minor is likely to gain access to a loaded firearm at a premises under the person’s control commits a disorderly persons offense if a minor gains access to the firearm, unless the person:

(1) Stores the firearm in a securely locked box or container;

(2) Stores the firearm in a location which a reasonable person would believe to be secure; or

(3) Secures the firearm with a trigger lock.

b. This section shall not apply:

(1) To activities authorized by section 14 of P.L.1979, c.179, (C.2C:58-6.1), concerning the lawful use of a firearm by a minor; or

(2) Under circumstances where a minor obtained a firearm as a result of an unlawful entry by any person.

c. As used in this act, “minor” means a person under the age of 16.

 

On first glance, it seems written to present a fairly high hurdle to prosecutors to overcome. But if the under-16 year old minor loaded the firearm himself or herself, would that still not constitute "access"?

 

Otherwise. I'd question the wisdom of the State of New Jersey requiring a trigger lock on a loaded firearm.

On first glance, it seems written to present a fairly high hurdle to prosecutors to overcome. But if the under-16 year old minor loaded the firearm himself or herself, would that still not constitute "access"? NO

 

Otherwise. I'd question the wisdom of the State of New Jersey requiring a trigger lock on a loaded firearm.

Don't read into what is in black and white.

I can't believe what I'm reading here! Don't all of you remember signing the paperwork about kids and guns when you picked-up your gun(s)?

 

The LAW says ACCESS, doesn't say anything about loaded or unloaded, so ACCESS is a crime by itself!

 

If ANYTHING IS IN A LOCKED SAFE, why post a moot question?

 

Supervision by adults is covered under the law, otherwise we'd all be locked-up!

 

EDUCATE YOURSELVES PEOPLE! Some of you scare me!

 

Likewise

NJ Statute: 2C:58-15. Minor’s access to a loaded firearm; penalty, conditions.

 

a. A person who knows or reasonably should know that a minor is likely to gain access to a loaded firearm at a premises under the person’s control commits a disorderly persons offense if a minor gains access to the firearm, unless the person:

(1) Stores the firearm in a securely locked box or container;

(2) Stores the firearm in a location which a reasonable person would believe to be secure; or

(3) Secures the firearm with a trigger lock.

b. This section shall not apply:

(1) To activities authorized by section 14 of P.L.1979, c.179, (C.2C:58-6.1), concerning the lawful use of a firearm by a minor; or

(2) Under circumstances where a minor obtained a firearm as a result of an unlawful entry by any person.

c. As used in this act, “minor” means a person under the age of 16.

 

Thank you

I'm guessing that's what they meant when they wrote it, Paul.

 

I was just thinking of how a prosecutor might try to get a jury to interpret it. (More likely in the North Jersey counties.)

 

The trigger lock on a loaded gun requirement doesn't sound like it's well thought through.

I stumbled over this read:

 

http://www.leg.wa.gov/Senate/Committees/LAW/Documents/SummaryOfStateChildAccessPreventionLaws.pdf