In reviewing the results of the Senate vote, it stands out that CCW reciprocity won 57 votes, which I believe is 3 short of a supermajority needed to overturn a veto.

 

How about this scenario:

1) Backlash against anti-gun zealots in midterm elections

2) Introduce CCW reciprocity bill with new and friendlier senate

3) O vetoes

4) Veto overridden and law of the land!

 

Am I dreaming here? The more I think of it, the more the anti-gun overreach may be a net positive for us. If the expected electoral bloodbath occurs, I think federl gun safety legislation (see what I did there? ) is dead for a generation.

I wonder how many voted yes knowing it wouldn't pass

The mid-term elections will be an all out political war. No strings attached. If Deomocrats win Senate and House, we as a nation are done. Stick a fork in us done! If the Republicans win in a backlash, liberalism is done. The progressives will be running for cover, Obama is a lame duck. It is too soon to tell which will win. Obama likes to double down to win. Look for nasty campaigns to unseat Republicans. Bloomturd will be on the democrat's side with plenty of cash. Its simple democrats have to go. At the very least Republicans need to hold the house, winning the senate will be the prize. This is the reason no new gun laws. Too close to the beginning of a campaign cycle. Nobody wants to get marked too early for replacement.

 

From your lips to God's ears!

Kinda late for them not to want to get marked regardless. The fact remains their names have been exposed with their votes. We will already not vote for them.

 

The mid-term elections will be an all out political war. No strings attached. If Deomocrats win Senate and House, we as a nation are done. Stick a fork in us done! If the Republicans win in a backlash, liberalism is done. The progressives will be running for cover, Obama is a lame duck. It is too soon to tell which will win. Obama likes to double down to win. Look for nasty campaigns to unseat Republicans. Bloomturd will be on the democrat's side with plenty of cash. Its simple democrats have to go. At the very least Republicans need to hold the house, winning the senate will be the prize. This is the reason no new gun laws. Too close to the beginning of a campaign cycle. Nobody wants to get marked too early for replacement.

 

From your lips to God's ears!

 

 

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In reviewing the results of the Senate vote, it stands out that CCW reciprocity won 57 votes, which I believe is 3 short of a supermajority needed to overturn a veto.

 

How about this scenario:

1) Backlash against anti-gun zealots in midterm elections

2) Introduce CCW reciprocity bill with new and friendlier senate

3) O vetoes

4) Veto overridden and law of the land!

 

Am I dreaming here? The more I think of it, the more the anti-gun overreach may be a net positive for us. If the expected electoral bloodbath occurs, I think federl gun safety legislation (see what I did there? ) is dead for a generation.

 

It was the admendment that came closest to passing.

Here's where the passion gap comes into play. Most people don't care about midterms. We just had a near death experience.

 

The wild card for me is Bloombergs attempt to bypass democracy and buy elections. I just hope enough people see it for what it is and it stirs a grassroots backlash

Time to go back to High School civics class - a veto over-ride requires a 2/3rds vote which is 66!

Time to go back to High School civics class - a veto over-ride requires a 2/3rds vote which is 66!

 

This and it's 2/3 for each chamber not just the senate.

I could be wrong, and correct me if I am, but the CCW bill was only if YOUR state allowed you to have one. In that case it means nothing to us.

I could be wrong, and correct me if I am, but the CCW bill was only if YOUR state allowed you to have one. In that case it means nothing to us.

 

the current text of HR822 is a CCW from "a" state lets you carry everywhere except your own state. This means a FL or VA CCW will once again be good in PA and I could carry in places like NYC previously off limits.

 

It may prod NJ to loosen up too since everyone from out if state could carry. Congress will also study state laws for issuance of CCWs.

In reviewing the results of the Senate vote, it stands out that CCW reciprocity won 57 votes, which I believe is 3 short of a supermajority needed to overturn a veto.

 

How about this scenario:

1) Backlash against anti-gun zealots in midterm elections

2) Introduce CCW reciprocity bill with new and friendlier senate

3) O vetoes

4) Veto overridden and law of the land!

 

Am I dreaming here? The more I think of it, the more the anti-gun overreach may be a net positive for us. If the expected electoral bloodbath occurs, I think federl gun safety legislation (see what I did there? ) is dead for a generation.

 

Howard and ryan_j are of course right about needing 66 votes for the 2/3 supermajority.

 

Hard, but still possible...I will hope and pray and dream about this...