All,

I was in upstate NY (Rochester) over the weekend visiting my son at college. Went to Walmart for a few college supplies and they had some ammo in stock - .40s&w for reasonable price. 3 box limit so I took them. At checkout I was asked for my "permit" to buy the ammo. Is this something new with Cuomo's SAFE act? In the end I showed my NJ FPID and the clerk took it after giving me a weird look and I got the ammo, but is this an issue now? Should I not even try in the future?

Thanks

Dean

Yes, but what you're describing is what we've been doing in NJ all along.

My point was I've never been asked for a permit to buy ammo in NY before. Is this now a no-no? Heck, even in MA I don't get asked for anything - I gave up thinking I needed to be carded to prove I was over 18 a long time ago.

 

I do quite a bit of travel throughout the northeast and have always been able to find ammo when I need it. Is N Y now off limits ammo-wise?

I would say I am from NJ. How are you. I left my copy of the constitution at home.

It's going to get worse when the "background check" requirement kicks in. Then, you'll be dependent on the goodwill of a dealer willing to do a NICS check for $10.

I would say I am from NJ. How are you. I left my copy of the constitution at home.

Thats kind of ironic coming from a NJ gun owner now isnt it. It is still funny as hell though!

Ken

Thats kind of ironic coming from a NJ gun owner now isnt it. It is still funny as hell though!

Ken

funny thing. Im not trying to get anybody in trouble but no one has ever asked me for my FID when I purchase.

Technically, it's been like that but rarely enforced in New York. With the SAFE Act now, you must present your NY pistol license which denotes every pistol you own and calibers they are in. Come next year, 04/15/14, you will also endure a NICS background check to purchase ammunition, per the SAFE Act.

I've been buying ammo in big box stores for years(5+) in NY and have been asked for my "pistol license" every single time. I produce my FPID, they look at it and give me the ammo.

 

When I go to small gun shops in NY, they don't ask. I think it's a Walmart/Gander mtn/Etc. NY policy or rarely enforced in small shops if it's a law. I've since stopped spending any money in NY because of the new laws.

Come next year, 04/15/14, you will also endure a NICS background check to purchase ammunition, per the SAFE Act.

 

How do they intend to get around the federal restriction that NICS is for firearms purchases ONLY?

How do they intend to get around the federal restriction that NICS is for firearms purchases ONLY?

 

Seriously. Barack and Holder won't stand for requiring background checks for ammo. Even if it was legal, it could clog up the NICS system and prevent people from buying guns.

Seriously. Barack and Holder won't stand for requiring background checks for ammo. Even if it was legal, it could clog up the NICS system and prevent people from buying guns.

Prevent people from buying guns? That's an outrage! Fixing it will be Holder's top mission. How else is he going to buy guns to walk to Mexico.

 

I don't know if the SAFE Act specified NICS. Like all other parts of the act, I assume it was vague, so New Yorkers will be left unable to buy ammunition, because no one, including the "SAFE hotline" knows what constitutes a legal background check. None of this is accidental.

I've bought pistol ammo over the state line at Walmart in Suffern, and they have always asked me for my fid.

How do they intend to get around the federal restriction that NICS is for firearms purchases ONLY?

 

I stated that incorrectly. It's not NICS. It will be a internal database the state will build that matches up to a gun registry (starting with handguns) of whether you are allowed to possess/purchase ammunition. Example: If you own a 1911 Govt., you would presumably be authorized to purchase .45ACP if that is the caliber listed on your pistol permit. What is unknown is what triggers will be tripped based on the amount of ammunition someone procures. And, say you buy .223 ammo, is someone going to check to see if you've registered a black-rifle? What if you have a bolt-action .223, and you buy 1,000 rounds; does an alarm still go off?

 

The design of SAFE is simple; winnow away over time arms and ammunition from law-abiding residents. The way the assault weapon law is written now, in less than a century, no one will be allowed to possess an assault-style-looking weapon that matches their criteria.

walmart in NY in my experience has asked for a "pistol permit". An NJ FPID or any state's CCW seems to work.

I've bought pistol ammo over the state line at Walmart in Suffern, and they have always asked me for my fid.

 

Same with me last year, i think it is common practice