This should shut a lot of people up:

 

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-gun-crimes-pew-report-20130507,0,3022693.story

 

Source:

 

http://bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=4616

This should shut a lot of people up:

 

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-gun-crimes-pew-report-20130507,0,3022693.story

 

Source:

 

http://bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=4616

No it won't. They'll just ignore it.

 

No it won't. They'll just ignore it.

+1. If it doesn't conform to their agenda, it may as well never have happened.

I would love to see the statistics broken down further:

 

Number of legally obtained firearms involved in a homicide

Number of legally obtained firearms involved in a suicide

Stats of accidental death involving a firearm

And of course stats on number of homicides with a .50 cal or larger.

I would love to see the statistics broken down further:

 

Number of legally obtained firearms involved in a homicide

Number of legally obtained firearms involved in a suicide

Stats of accidental death involving a firearm

 

Cory Booker has stated that during his tenure as Newark Mayor only one homicide was committed with a legal gun.

 

See http://bit.ly/11iExpW for accidental deaths. There were about 120,000 in the U.S. last year, not counting 100,000-200,000 due to medical malpractice. The tally:

 

Automobile: 42,000

Poisoning (including drug overdoses): 39,000

Falls: 25,000

Fires: 2,700

Choking: 2,500

Drowning: 2,000

 

And of course this article had to mention guns: 600. Yup, six hundred. Maybe we should ban high-capacity stairwells and high-occupancy cars.

 

The suicide numbers are troubling, however. Officially about 30,000 people kill themselves in the US every year. That number is probably low by about 50% since many "accidents" are actually suicides. So figure 40-45,000. Of those, 19,000, about half, are by guns. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/suicide.htm

 

The silver lining is that U.S. suicide rates are about 35th in the world -- 24th or so if you count developed countries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate. First-world countries like France, Austria, New Zealand, Poland, Finland, Belgium, Japan, and S. Korea have higher suicide rates, the latter two double the rate in the US. As far as I know all those countries are gun-free. Our suicide rate is essentially the same as that of Ireland, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Iceland, and Chile.

posted on NBC

 

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/07/18108298-gun-violence-in-us-has-fallen-dramatically-over-past-20-years-justice-dept-report-finds?lite

Cory Booker has stated that during his tenure as Newark Mayor only one homicide was committed with a legal gun.

 

See http://bit.ly/11iExpW for accidental deaths. There were about 120,000 in the U.S. last year, not counting 100,000-200,000 due to medical malpractice. The tally:

 

Automobile: 42,000

Poisoning (including drug overdoses): 39,000

Falls: 25,000

Fires: 2,700

Choking: 2,500

Drowning: 2,000

 

And of course this article had to mention guns: 600. Yup, six hundred. Maybe we should ban high-capacity stairwells and high-occupancy cars.

 

The suicide numbers are troubling, however. Officially about 30,000 people kill themselves in the US every year. That number is probably low by about 50% since many "accidents" are actually suicides. So figure 40-45,000. Of those, 19,000, about half, are by guns. http://www.cdc.gov/n...ats/suicide.htm

 

The silver lining is that U.S. suicide rates are about 35th in the world -- 24th or so if you count developed countries: http://en.wikipedia....by_suicide_rate. First-world countries like France, Austria, New Zealand, Poland, Finland, Belgium, Japan, and S. Korea have higher suicide rates, the latter two double the rate in the US. As far as I know all those countries are gun-free. Our suicide rate is essentially the same as that of Ireland, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Iceland, and Chile.

 

I had been in the process of compiling my own data. Being a father these are things I think about..I wonder how many of those 600 deaths involved "secured" firearms.

 

E.g - in a safe with a trigger lock, etc.

 

Or were they guns "stored away in a closet" with ammo available.

Ahhhh, you all miss the point, HOW the Anti-2A forces will use this data, and actually are! In NY/NJ/CA, and now in CT and CO, the declining rate is PROOF that their laws work! And in the near future, as the rate continues to decline, as it has for 20-some years, the part from the imposition of new laws to the present, whatever that may be will be PROOF that their new laws work! And we need MORE! never mind the fact that it WAS declining anyway before the new laws. That inconvenient fact will be omitted--

I had been in the process of compiling my own data. Being a father these are things I think about..I wonder how many of those 600 deaths involved "secured" firearms.

 

E.g - in a safe with a trigger lock, etc.

 

Or were they guns "stored away in a closet" with ammo available.

 

I'd imagine that most of those accidents occurred during normal activities like hunting or target shooting. In other words, they're true accidents. Probably a few from showing off loaded guns. I've also heard about deaths while "cleaning." Beats me, though, how anyone could be so stupid and careless.

Ahhhh, you all miss the point, HOW the Anti-2A forces will use this data, and actually are! In NY/NJ/CA, and now in CT and CO, the declining rate is PROOF that their laws work!

 

I understand you're trying to duplicate the warped thinking of insane individuals. However, the opposite should be apparent even to them. Since 1988 approximately 40 states have instituted must-issue concealed carry. Vermont and Alaska, I believe, do not even issue permits because they are unnecessary in those states.

 

That's 42 states, times an average of 12 years w/ CC, approximately 500 state-years that clearly demonstrate that more guns do not equal more crime. On the other hand you have approximately 7-8 states that do not permit CC. Would be interesting to track crime rates over the last 25 years in those states. Regardless, the evidence from 42 states will always swamp the numbers from 8 states.

 

Interestingly, if you ask an anti-gunner how many states permit CC they'll usually answer five or six. If you'd ask them to name the state with the longest history of constitutional carry they'd go through 49 states before they guessed correctly at Vermont. And if you present them with stats they'll just look down and shake their heads, as if you told them there were nine days in the week.

They say it is the legality of abortion that caused the crime rate to drop. I don't necessarily disagree however they ignorantly ignore that this shows that firearms have little effect on the crime rate.

As many have stated, it doesn't fit their agenda so it will be pushed aside. Now if those statistics were advantageous to them we wouldn't hear the end of it.

Just shows the sad state of the media these days and those who pretend to care about gun violence. 

This shouldn't be news to anyone here. The FBI data has presented this information for years, you just had to look for it and crunch the numbers. A lot of people are under the impression that gun violence is on the rise, when it is the reverse that is true.

 

Be sure to save these resources, they may prove handy in the future.