So I am looking at the Eotech 557 as my first real optic for my AR.

 

Anybody have? Thoughts? I see all perfect ratings online for this model and figured I can't go wrong.

http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/50692-alternatives-to-eotech/

 

Avoid the EoTurd. Get an Aimpoint PRO. More reliable optic with a longer battery life for a cheaper price.

http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/50692-alternatives-to-eotech/

 

Avoid the EoTurd. Get an Aimpoint PRO. More reliable optic with a longer battery life for a cheaper price.

time to stop posting.

time to stop posting.

Please 'splain. Gracias.

Please 'splain. Gracias.

"eo-turd"? 

time to stop posting.

 

 

Please 'splain. Gracias.

 

Lmao!

 

time to stop posting.

 

Please 'splain. Gracias.

 

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EoTurd? Oh, sorry. Must been my autocorrect on my phone. Happens all the time. I meant to type:

 

EoPeiceOfFreakingGarbage

 

Apologies for the miscommunication

I agree with HighExposure....Aimpoint pro.

If you do feel the need to get an Eotech get the Xps. Way better track record..

Aimpoint T1 is my optic of choice..

 

Awww snap!

 

Anyway, I will take your advice ino consideration and read some more reviews, watch videos, etc.

Zerosignal, I prefer the T1 over the Pro as well. (I have multiple T1s and PROs). Personally, the lighter weight and smaller profile is worth the extra $100. Not everyone feels the same way and I get that. Some shooters have different requirements for their gear than I do, and that is how it should be.

 

I always recommend the PRO first to those new to RDS or casual shooters because in addition to the PRO being a lower cost alternative to the T1, subjectively the value (as opposed to cost) to them may be even higher based on their experience with RDSs, their personal use requirements for the optic, and the lower price. I also recommend the PRO because it comes in under most EoTurd (damn, it did it again) in price while offering the longer battery life, better controls, more options (ex. NV settings) and higher quality.

another vote for Aimpoint....

 

for under $400 you can get a quality red dot that comes with a rock solid mount.. and works in a way that makes the battery last YEARS.. and as a small bonus is also night vision compatible.. 

 

I have two PROs... 

Wow! I didn't know I had a turd on my rifle. Sure doesn't smell like a turd. I have the Eotech 557AR223 and it's still going strong with the same AA batteries I put in it three years ago, even though I forget to turn it off once in a while. Has held zero and never given me a problem. I tried a T1 Aimpoint before buying the Eotech and liked the Eotech better. If I had it to do over I probably would have bought a lower priced model because I don't need the extra ability to use night vision.

 

Try a few different sights if you can and make up your own mind.

A turd on a rifle is always better than a turd in a punch bowl... I vote Aimpoint Pro.. Love mine!

 

Wow! I didn't know I had a turd on my rifle. Sure doesn't smell like a turd. I have the Eotech 557AR223 and it's still going strong with the same AA batteries I put in it three years ago, even though I forget to turn it off once in a while. Has held zero and never given me a problem. I tried a T1 Aimpoint before buying the Eotech and liked the Eotech better. If I had it to do over I probably would have bought a lower priced model because I don't need the extra ability to use night vision.

 

Try a few different sights if you can and make up your own mind.

 

My first RDS optic was an EoTurd. I still have it but it has been relegated to .22 trainer status. I will not rely on it for "social" work or even competition.

 

I currently also have a number of EoTurds issued to some colleagues. On a good day at the range only a few will die during training. If we are lucky a little field maintenance and fresh batteries will get them up and running again. Usually only 1 or 2 units a month have to go back for repairs. We are in the process of transitioning to Aimpoints for everyone.

 

You have an EoTech and you like it. It hasn't failed you (yet). I get it.

 

Nobody likes to be told that they have an ugly baby, but it is a sobering realization that your choice in equipment will fail youand it is a lesson better learned before it costs you more than 1st place.

 

I remember getting called out in the middle of the night. Driving to the scene of a possible hostage job and my EoTurd won't turn on. Trying to swap batteries in the back of a packed vehicle was a pain, but I got it done. Brand new batteries, life is good. We stand by for a few hours before getting the OK to go in. Make it into the basement and the EoTurd dies again. Flip to BUIS and finish. Get home, try new batteries, nothing. Unit has to go back for repair. I bought my first Aimpont (an M4/M68CCO model) that night. 3 weeks later I got the EoTurd back from repair and on to a training gun it went. It has gone back 3 times since then. I am saving for a T1 for the training rifle now too. I want the Eo Gone!

 

By the way, if you "polish a turd" (new reticles, transverse battery box, move the controls, change the battery type) you still have a turd.

Wow! I didn't know I had a turd on my rifle. Sure doesn't smell like a turd. I have the Eotech 557AR223 and it's still going strong with the same AA batteries I put in it three years ago, even though I forget to turn it off once in a while. Has held zero and never given me a problem. I tried a T1 Aimpoint before buying the Eotech and liked the Eotech better. If I had it to do over I probably would have bought a lower priced model because I don't need the extra ability to use night vision.

 

Try a few different sights if you can and make up your own mind.

 

 

for under $400 with AImpoint it comes with NV capability.. 

 

I have had my batteries in my one PRO for over 2 years... and I never forgot to shut it off... you know why? its on all the time.. lol... that thing stays on 24/7...

 

I appreciate that your Eotech works well... and that you are happy with it.. and I am sure there are a million more satisfied Eotech users... but you can find a ton that are NOT happy... while I rarely hear AImpoint users having any complaints.... 

 

 

again if it works for you great..

my point is you can get more optic for less money with an Aimpoint.. 

Just to throw it out there, if you prefer the size/weight of an Aimpoint micro but don't need the NV capability of the T1, you can save a couple bucks by picking up an H1. Same optic, just doesn't work with night vision.

I had a 557 for a while. Well made and had no problems with it. The reticle is very blurry though. The 3 dots blend together forming 1 blurry line unless you use a magnifier. I sold it and bought an Aimpoint, never looked back. I have had the compm4 and the pro, both are basically indestructible.

Just to throw it out there, if you prefer the size/weight of an Aimpoint micro but don't need the NV capability of the T1, you can save a couple bucks by picking up an H1. Same optic, just doesn't work with night vision.

 

 

true story... had an H1 and T1 at different times mounted on Ultimak gas tubes... both functioned the same.. 

Just watched some YouTube comparisons. I found it interesting that the $60 Eotech clones are almost alike except the quality of the glass giving the clone a very slight blur. Anybody have first hand experience of the 552 or 557 "clones"?

Just watched some YouTube comparisons. I found it interesting that the $60 Eotech clones are almost alike except the quality of the glass giving the clone a very slight blur. Anybody have first hand experience of the 552 or 557 "clones"?

If the real ones are turds, I don't even want to think about how crappy the knock-offs are.

 

If you have any intention at all of using this optic on a rifle to be used for SD/HD buy quality gear of a known and reputable manufacturer.

I could use two more Aimpoint Pros and if I had the money right now, I would have taken advantage of that recent sale... Just saying.... (Shrug)..

 

 

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Well, I stepped away from Eotech. I did a extensive search purely by reviews and came across the Sightmark ultra Shot z series. It had near perfect reviews online. Also, the price of about $120 was nice, too. Although the reticle came in green only (zombie edition, c'mon now), it was praised for being crisp and held zero.

So all those recommendations between Eoturds and Aimpoints, you go with Sightmark? What was the point in asking for advise and finally using reviews to make a decision? Especially after a multitude of RDS advice are on the forum in past posts... I don't get it... (shrug)... This is why I don't chime in too often to recommend things.

So all those recommendations between Eoturds and Aimpoints, you go with Sightmark? What was the point in asking for advise and finally using reviews to make a decision? Especially after a multitude of RDS advice are on the forum in past posts... I don't get it... (shrug)... This is why I don't chime in too often to recommend things.

 

I was looking for a recommendation between a Ferrari or a Lamborghini?? Ehh f u c k it I got a Kia instead...

Well, I stepped away from Eotech. I did a extensive search purely by reviews and came across the Sightmark ultra Shot z series. It had near perfect reviews online. Also, the price of about $120 was nice, too. Although the reticle came in green only (zombie edition, c'mon now), it was praised for being crisp and held zero.

I am afraid that you will find out that you just turned a $400 Aimpoint into a $520 Aimpont. Buy cheap, buy twice.

 

I am curious though about how you conducted your extensive search? And how that search led you to "Sightmark"?

 

Good luck with it. I hope it serves you better than I think it will.

Because the reviews on your suggestions weren't as good as the purchase I made. I took all your suggested models into consideration. I made my choice from reviews on amazon, sporting and optic website reviews, other forums and YouTube unboxings and live reviews and comments.

 

Although I appreciate your feedback on your suggestions, I didn't ask for your comments on my final purchase if you didn't agree with it. Calm yourselves.

With all due respect. People spent time on giving you lengthy advice which was posted several times all over this forum. Then you basically ignored it and went your own way. You asked about 1 particular unit, again, which has been posted about all over. If you would have given multiple choice options or at least did a search before asking, you would have possibly saved a lot of folk's efforts in helping you. I hate being repetitive to begin with and although I did not offer a lot of intel in this post, others like HE has. And I'll emphasize again, if people would use a little effort before posting here, we'd have a much more robust forum without repeating stuff over and over. I'm not picking on just you. But as of late, many have been not using any effort at all to find out info that is already here. I know sometimes, it's hard to find and buried deep, but these subjects are very popular. There is no reason why an already similar post would not give you the info. Further, you could have added to an existing one that may not have been answered. So this pertains to all posters on this forum. R.I.F.....

 

Because the reviews on your suggestions weren't as good as the purchase I made. I took all your suggested models into consideration. I made my choice from reviews on amazon, sporting and optic website reviews, other forums and YouTube unboxings and live reviews and comments.

 

 

Although I appreciate your feedback on your suggestions, I didn't ask for your comments on my final purchase if you didn't agree with it. Calm yourselves.

 

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I made my choice from reviews on amazon, sporting and optic website reviews, other forums and YouTube unboxings and live reviews and comments.

Also I looked up some reviews on your chosen optic and compared them to the ones I could find on the PRO. How you convinced yourself that the Sightmark is a better optic and a better value is beyond me.

 

Anyway...

 

Like I said good luck with it.

 

Keep an accurate round count and a log of any issues that pop up. Please report back your findings and experiences after you have 1000 rounds or so through it.

You pay for what you get.

Buy ONCE, cry ONCE.