July 10, 201313 yr ... With no represtation, then why do so many people feel that there wont be another revolution given the fact that we are taxed out the wazoo, and by people who really dont "represent" us. They represent there interests. And a slew of other problems that are never addressed, instead are just swept under the rug, on top of all the liberty stripping laws that are being made on a monthly bases. I heard somewhere the colonists started the war after a 3% tax was instated, we are up around 30% tax over all we need a hot damn revolution this is ridiculous.
July 10, 201313 yr Author Yea you guys are right lets roll over find a nice place in the sand to bury our heads...
July 10, 201313 yr 3% of the colonists fought for independence. Conservatively that would be 8.1 million citizens today.
July 10, 201313 yr Your Taxation point is a little off. Taxes were instated from the "mother land", hence the no taxation with out representation... and the money was more or less being sent back over the Atlantic. Think of it like a country which starts to strip resources from another, at some point the people are going to realize there being duped, taxes are supposed to be a re-investment. I'm not much of a history buff so my point isn't 100% accurate, but today the tax situation is MUCH different. We have representatives controlling taxes, from the local state and federal level, and the money they collect stays here more or less. Back then it was much different in terms of who decided what and how much was taxed, and where the money went. The issue wasn't the high taxes. I don't mind paying taxes when i see that we benefit from it, back then no one here benefited from taxes..
July 10, 201313 yr ... With no represtation, then why do so many people feel that there wont be another revolution given the fact that we are taxed out the wazoo, and by people who really dont "represent" us. Because despite that, most people are still more comfortable than not. If that were not trending badly, nobody would be asking. When resisting them costs less than permitting the status quo to continue, people will get rowdy.
July 10, 201313 yr The PTB (politicians/bankers/Fed) know how to keep us just comfortable enough while still suppressing us, taking our money, and eroding our rights. However, if the economy keeps diving, who knows? All it could take is another couple natural disaters or an overseas failure of the dollar...
July 10, 201313 yr We have plenty of representation. We also get the representation we deserve. The nation holds the key to making any changes it sees fit -- the voting booth. Judging the results... who do we have to blame? Most of the electorate seem only interested in reality TV. Seems I make new enemies every week with my views on the current state of the USA.
July 10, 201313 yr I heard the boston tea party was not about the taxes, but that removing the tax actually helped the Dutch. True or not?
July 10, 201313 yr The PTB (politicians/bankers/Fed) know how to keep us just comfortable enough while still suppressing us, taking our money, and eroding our rights. However, if the economy keeps diving, who knows? All it could take is another couple natural disaters or an overseas failure of the dollar... They seem to be running out of economic policy to avoid issues. The truth of your statement will come down to how married they are to Keynesian economic theory, how correct that theory is, and if they decide to swerve at the last minute, how fast they can come up with a new idea. All signs point to reality parting ways with the predicted behavior of the Keynesian model even after having applied copious quantities of printed money in the right places. They appear to be pulling back. Are they clever enough to have a new plan.
July 10, 201313 yr I just looked at our Verizon Bill for out company. $199 in fees and Taxes on a $1,250 bill. Are we still paying off the Spanish American War?
July 10, 201313 yr 3% of the colonists fought for independence. Conservatively that would be 8.1 million citizens today. more than enough to do the trick.
July 10, 201313 yr I just looked at our Verizon Bill for out company. $199 in fees and Taxes on a $1,250 bill. Are we still paying off the Spanish American War? I think that particular tax was repealed fairly recently, like within the last few years.
July 10, 201313 yr http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/industries/telecom/2006-05-25-phone-tax_x.htm
July 10, 201313 yr We have plenty of representation. We also get the representation we deserve. The nation holds the key to making any changes it sees fit -- the voting booth. Judging the results... who do we have to blame? Most of the electorate seem only interested in reality TV. Seems I make new enemies every week with my views on the current state of the USA. Yeah we have plenty of representation, but they really only represent themselves and those who line their pockets. The problem as I see it is that waste, fraud, and abuse is systemic. It is embedded, and it can't be voted out, even if we systematically vote out all incumbents, because challengers are already connected. Even if a naive idealistic noob is voted in, they are soon corrupted.
July 10, 201313 yr Politicians should get a $20.000 base salary and thats it !!! No pension, no special health care , and the same social security check that a normal citizen would get. Their should be no lobbyist and all politicians aides should be non paid interns. And political corruption should be punishable by death. POLITICS SHOULD BE A PASSION, NOT A CAREER. OH YEAH... TERM LIMITS ONE AND YOUR DONE.
July 10, 201313 yr The PTB (politicians/bankers/Fed) know how to keep us just comfortable enough while still suppressing us, taking our money, and eroding our rights. However, if the economy keeps diving, who knows? All it could take is another couple natural disaters or an overseas failure of the dollar... This is what I'm predicting will "save us", ironically.
July 10, 201313 yr Politicians should get a $20.000 base salary and thats it !!! No pension, no special health care , and the same social security check that a normal citizen would get. Their should be no lobbyist and all politicians aides should be non paid interns. And political corruption should be punishable by death. POLITICS SHOULD BE A PASSION, NOT A CAREER. OH YEAH... TERM LIMITS ONE AND YOUR DONE. +1,000,000 to all, but especially what's in red.
July 10, 201313 yr I would be happy with public Flogging for corruption. The real reform we need though is the courts must interpret the Constitution as written. No exceptions. I would even go as far as to say it should operate like a computer program.
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