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Ultimate Survival Gun

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Guy on YouTube has those fittings for a shotgun not super accurate

Meh, IMHO it would be better if they'd take that Trijicon abortion off the top and replace it with a T1 that weighs about 4x less.  Id still rather have my AR and the .22 conversion for it.

Not impressed. I'll stay with my Savage 24C camper. .22/20 gauge with holes in the stock to carry ammo. I can carry .22 short for quietly dispatching critters, .22LR, 20 gauge bird shot, 20 gauge slugs. It breaks down to fit nicely and unobtrusively into a backpack. And it's a nice classic gun, which I adore.

 

I've never tried the caliber conversion kits, but I've never heard anything good about them. Between a .22 and a 20 gauge, I don't see the need to inaccurately fire other calibers.

 

I don't see the point of gluing on every survival tool known to man onto the gun. That's what the bug out bag is for. I want a gun that's a gun.

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Guy on YouTube has those fittings for a shotgun not super accurate

 

You can get tubes that are longer 10, 12, 18" inches, but you would still have a problem with sights, etc.  And the longer inserts are definitely costly.  You can even get a set of inserts that supposedly work in a pump action shotgun.  It wouldn't be my first choice, either, I would rather have a Glock 23 w/ a 9mm barrel and a Ruger 10/22 TD.  I would like a Savage 24 in the right caliber combo, though, as one was suggested earlier in this thread.  I would rather have a Savage 12 gauge/.223 and get the 12 or 18" 22LR insert... and maybe get the inserts for a 410, 20 gauge.  I wonder if the 410 insert will also allow you to shoot .45 Colt?  And, if you had a single or double shot shotgun, you could get a 12" 9mm conversion. That would be a "cheap" way to get a 9mm long-gun.  I wonder what the accuracy would be like.

 

With the gun in the article, I don't think I would want just a slip-on cover for the stock. And, the compass seems silly.

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Eh - I'd rather have my AR7

 

Maybe the newer ones are OK, I don't know, but the older ones are pieces of Schumer.

In my opinion a Side by side is to restrictive for survival, granted a gun is better then no gun. I would rather have something semi auto and can shoot more then two rounds before reload. Especially if its a charging bear or something bigger, those two shotgun shells will probably not do the trick. 

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In my opinion a Side by side is to restrictive for survival, granted a gun is better then no gun. I would rather have something semi auto and can shoot more then two rounds before reload. Especially if its a charging bear or something bigger, those two shotgun shells will probably not do the trick. 

 

I think you are right, plus this is a jack-of-all trades and not really good at any one thing.  It would have a lot of versatility if there was combat accuracy out to 100 yards with the inserts, but that probably wouldn't happen with those 3-5" inserts.  I think you can also get/make a black powder setup for it as well since it is a double-barrel shotgun and that would add to the versatility, but accuracy?  However, I would choose something nicer than a Stoeger to start out with  if I was going to make one of these.   Although I like shotguns, I find them heavy and shells too heavy/bulky and would not consider one for a bugout gun on the move and/or on foot.  If say a 14" barrel  was legal that would be neat, though.  But still I would rather have it only in a set location, or from a vehicle. 

 

I guess it would really come down to what else you could carry that would be an effective replacement, and the key would be 1 gun.   I think for ultimate versatility and if money, unconstitutional States, etc. were not issues,  the new Colt 901 .223/.308 combo would be the best choice, and again, maybe coupled with a Glock 23 and a .22LR conversion kit, 9mm barrel, and a Ruger 10/22 TD model.  But, that would still be (3) guns.  One gun just doesn't seem to be able to do it all, but the versatility of a shotgun does come close. If the inserts for a pump shotgun work well, then that might be a better choice.  However, you would still only have an effective "snub-nose" barrel for all of those other calibers.

For true wilderness and not shtf or self defense against humans a shot gun is a better choice than a rifle. Even when there's no game around they'll be small animals and birds. How you gonna shoot them with a rifle and still have something left to eat? If there's brown bear around, however, I'd want a pump for as many rounds as possible without reloading.

(Although thinking about it. If I'm out hunting small game with a shotgun and a brown bear comes around, I can change from birdshot to buckshot a lot faster with a side-by-side).

This is the ultimate last gun i would pick... why on earth a SXS? and all that crap they threw on it to make it a survival tool.. can be packed into a tiny bag.. all of which a true survivalist already has in a go bag.

 

A jack of all trades gun? i think not! I would take a single cartridge firearm that does one thing extremely well, then a tirade of calibers that perform to sub standard levels. A 20" barrel even for bird shot isnt going to perform well on game.

give me a stainless 20ga pump with mobile chokes. extended tube. it would do it all. birdshot for small game, BB and buckshot for self defense. buckshot for deer. slugs for deer or zombies :assassin: .  20ga frame will be lighter than a 12ga. a box of 20ga shells is a 1/4-1/2lb lighter than same box in 12ga.  it matters when carrying a lot of gear. you can buy aftermarket rifle sights for when using the slugs. or put a scope or aimpoint type sight on it.

 

I LOVE SxS guns and how they handle when hunting but for ultimate survival? NOPE.

 

Nick

What happens if you're loaded with birdshot and something bigger comes along in a hurry?  With the SxS, you could have one side birdshot and one side buckshot.

 

Another Nick

Naaaaahhh! PASS! Give me a 1911 or bigger caliber revolver. I will take my chances with those instead.

Ditto. My 1911 will be my ultimate gun. Just buy one of those 15 round mags for em and I'm good.

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