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PA Handgun F2F Sale

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A PA resident (just over the border) has a handgun for sale and insists on F2F transaction and won't ship out of state.

 

Considering PA F2F (for handguns) requires an FFL anyway, could I just meet him F2F at the PA FFL and have the PA FFL ship the handgun to my NJ FFL?

 

Of course, I would have to compensate the PA FFL for shipping cost and their time, but perhaps I would save some $ by having the PA FFL ship regular USPS instead of FedEx/UPS overnight (since it's FFL-to-FFL).

 

I'm not exactly sure how PA handgun F2F works, but this sounds like it would be it would be about the same as an F2F to a PA resident if I found a PA FFL willing to work with me on the shipping?

 

TIA.

A PA resident (just over the border) has a handgun for sale and insists on F2F transaction and won't ship out of state.

 

Considering PA F2F (for handguns) requires an FFL anyway, could I just meet him F2F at the PA FFL and have the PA FFL ship the handgun to my NJ FFL?

 

Of course, I would have to compensate the PA FFL for shipping cost and their time, but perhaps I would save some $ by having the PA FFL ship regular USPS instead of FedEx/UPS overnight (since it's FFL-to-FFL).

 

I'm not exactly sure how PA handgun F2F works, but this sounds like it would be it would be about the same as an F2F to a PA resident if I found a PA FFL willing to work with me on the shipping?

 

TIA.

 the item highlighted in red is the ONLY legal way to get that gun...you cannot take a pistol FTF in another state.

As far as I can tell, what you are suggesting is completely legal.  You are inspecting the pistol face to face, at the premises of the FFL, but never actually taking possession of the gun yourself.  Once you've inspected the gun, the seller hands the gun to the FFL, you then pay the seller, you then pay the FFL his transfer fee and shipping, then the FFL mails the pistol to your NJ FFL of choice, where you will pay another transfer fee and NICS, then take possession.

 

It's legal, but hardly seems worth it.

Much easier way is to get him to come over to a NJ FFL and do the one-stop transfer there.

All completely legal.

I've done it before.

Sounds like a real hassle. Is the gun you want rare or really hard to find? If not just find a Jersey vendor to get you the same gun. 

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It's a decent deal on a rare high-end model 1911. Just trying to determine if the hassle is worth the deal.

 

If he would be willing to ship to my NJ FFL for $50, it would still be a good deal even with NJ FFL fee here.

 

 

 

 

Much easier way is to get him to come over to a NJ FFL and do the one-stop transfer there.

All completely legal.

I've done it before.

 

This..  seems stupid that he won't ship to an FFL "out of state", but hey.. depending on where he is in PA, this seems like the obvious way to go rather than buy it, spend $ at a PA FFL (PICS & Transfer?), then pay shipping and Transfer & NICS at a NJ FFL.. 

 

Unless you are getting an INCREDIBLE deal or its something extremely hard to find, this whole process seems like wayyy too much..  from what it sounds like, a "decent deal" does not make this worth it IMO..  unless you are saving like $150 or more on something, the time, money and aggravation in dealing with someone who is clueless about the laws (won't ship to out of state FFL?  really?) makes it seem like that 'decent deal' just became more hassle than its worth..  again, unless its something that's incredibly hard to find...

 

just my 2¢.. 

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Agreed.  Savings is about $200 and no LGS has it in stock.

 

Sad part is the seller is only 40 minutes drive away and doesn't want to meet anywhere but his FFL.

 

I was hoping the PA FFL could just act as a "shipping agent" and drop-ship the firearm.  I'm not sure why I would need to pay for PICS in that case.

 

In this way, if the all-in cost at the PA FFL was something like $50 ($20 hassle-fee+$30 shipping), the seller would get his "PA F2F sale" and it would be the same as having it shipped to my NJ FFL.

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