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Anyone know about LEOSA?

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I have asked on occasion different officers from my agency, other local law enforcement and state officers.  I can not get a definitive answer because everyone has a different view. 

 

Does LEOSA limit the weapon that I am authorized to carry (Caliber).  I do not mean can I conceal my AR, I mean I qualify with 9mm (and hollow points) do I have to carry a 9mm.  I can find NOTHING in LEOSA stating that.  People tell me I am looking too deep.  However some people I work with say YES only carry 9mm, otheres say Nah it doesn't matter... Locals have said they don't think it matters but I am trying to figure it out before I buy my primary CCW.  Thought about getting the 9mm just in case but would honestly prefer the .40

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And of course as I ask this a buddy emails me a link with the most legible answer possible.. The problem was that it says same "type" of firearm qualifying with... in this type is meant handgun/long gun/rifle not caliber...

 

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1. Does the agency who qualifies me need to make a record of the make, model, caliber, or serial number of the firearm I qualify with?

 

No. LEOSA does not require the agency to maintain this information. This is a frequent concern given the statute's use of the term "type of firearm." LEOSA authorizes the carrying of a "concealed firearm" of the same "type" the individual receives certification for. As there is no case law interpreting this wording, the word "type" should be read to conform with the dictionary definition; something distinguishable as a variety. Accordingly, "type" of firearm should be read to mean either long gun or hand gun, which would permit you to carry any type of legal long gun or hand gun based on your qualification and not one particular make, model, or caliber. As an action outside of LEOSA requirements, the creation and maintenance of a database may expose the agency to liability, as discussed below.

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I think PK90 is well versed in LEOSA, you should try reaching out to him.

I qualify retired LEOs and that's also good for LEOSA. You need to have something recorded regarding what you qualified with. I give the qual sheet which lists the guns you qualed with to the shooter. I don't maintain any record of what they shot and am not required to.

 

You can qualify with any caliber 22 short to 500 S&W. Your agency dictates caliber if you are active not LEOSA. That's the same for all agencies. If you are state or local any restrictions have no force outside of the state. However, I think you are better served carrying what your agency permits as that gives you a basis for having had training no matter who you work for. If you are Federal you won't be charged criminally for carrying something other than your agency issues but you might lose our job. Also if you're Federal you may get agency backing in an off duty shoot as long as you're playing by their rules.

 

Although LEOSA says "firearm" not "handgun" I have never had anyone ask me to qual them with a long gun or an AR or AK pistol. To me "type of firearm" means revolver or semi-auto pistol. IMO if you qual with a only a revolver you shouldn't be carrying a semi-auto. While the definition of "type of handgun" is not clear I qual with a DA revolver, 1911, and Glock.

BTW if you are active you don't need to carry proof of qualification. The rationale being if you're working you qualified. This reinforces following your agency's rules.

 

Retired LEOs need to carry proof of qualification.

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