I know there have been many discussions prior to Last November as to whether or not the NJ AWB will expire, and the general consenses was that it would be renewed.  I just looked at the law and it still says "Chapter 54, Firearms and Weapons, expires on November 13, 2012.".

 

What gives?  Was it renewed or not?

It expired, so I'm going out and buying up a case of machine guns now. I'm sure NJ wanted to become more free than New Hampshire.

I know there have been many discussions prior to Last November as to whether or not the NJ AWB will expire, and the general consenses was that it would be renewed.  I just looked at the law and it still says "Chapter 54, Firearms and Weapons, expires on November 13, 2012.".

 

What gives?  Was it renewed or not?

 

Yes

Typical NJ crap, let's renew a law but not tell the public that it was renewed, it doesn't matter that the most current law on the NJSP website says that it expired in November 2012.

The Admin Code is not law. I would never rely on what is stated on the NJSP website, as it has been wrong on several occasions.

 

CHAPTER EXPIRATION DATE:
 
In accordance with N.J.S.A. 52:14B-5.1b, Chapter 54, Firearms and Weapons, expires on November 13, 2014. See: 43 N.J.R. 1203(a).

The Admin Code is not law. I would never rely on what is stated on the NJSP website, as it has been wrong on several occasions.

 

CHAPTER EXPIRATION DATE:

 

In accordance with N.J.S.A. 52:14B-5.1b, Chapter 54, Firearms and Weapons, expires on November 13, 2014. See: 43 N.J.R. 1203(a).

Link is to a password protected site.

 

So, given the automatic "sunset", now at 11/13/2014, we don't actually need to get any laws passed, or fight to get anything "changed", including anything needing a governor's signature. All we need to do is swing the state legislature just enough in the pro-2A direction to basically tie up and "kill" any attempt to renew Chapter 54 in the future. Preventing ANY bill containing renewal of Chapter 54 buried in it from ever seeing the light of day, or the governor's desk means that it will automatically expire on 11/14/2014. NJ would no longer have ANY firearms laws. No FPID, no CCW restrictions, no AWB, no "assault" pellet guns,etc.... Only the Federal laws would apply,which are much more "liveable" It  would seem that getting politicians to do "nothing" is inherently easier then getting them to actively do "something". Sure, if we managed to "sneak" this one in, I'm sure all the "antis" would be screaming for it to be re-implemented immediately. But, as I said, once its gone, getting anything "new" in place will be infinitely harder.  In the meantime, it will be the perfect opportunity to provide living proof that streets will not run red with blood the minute the evil black rifles,etc... are allowed to roam free.

but won't they just renew it like they did this year?

I admire your thinking carguy, but it's only the Administrative code, not the underlying statutes that have an expiration date.

So the LAW remains THE LAW regardless of the status of Chapter 54 of the A.C.

The operational enforcement mechanism by the State Police goes away, but not the LEGISLATIVE STATUTES.

 

We need to have 2C:39 and 2C:58 removed by Act of the Legislature, and affirmed by Act of the Governor to make a difference.

 

But it never hurts to hope and dream wet!

I'm sure the NRA or NJ2AS would advertise the hell of out this if it was expired.