Hello!

 

New member, did a lot of searching on this forum and others for an answer to my question. Looking to purchase my first firearm and, since I don't have a car, am trying to figure out how to get the gun to the range. Is it legal to travel to the range with a gun via public transportation (light rail, bus, etc) Does it matter if its a pistol or a rifle? Appreciate any help, at a loss right now.

 

Thanks!

You can't carry a handgun to or from after you depart public transportation, without a carry permit, so the answer is no.

I would have to think about the answer to your question regarding a rifle

No car?

 

Sounds like Elin really took you to the cleaners.

No car?

 

Sounds like Elin really took you to the cleaners.

LOL

LAW? Wrapped and securely tied package.

 

Why can't someone walk to a range? Are not feet a means of transportation?

 

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You can't carry a handgun to or from after you depart public transportation, without a carry permit, so the answer is no.

I would have to think about the answer to your question regarding a rifle

 

 

I dont know about that.....

 

For instance..... I go to LGS and buy a handgun, I am parked several blocks away. I walk out the store and walk xx blocks to my car....  Did I break the law? 

 

If I dont have a car/motorcycle.....  is a bicycle a proper vehicle to transport a handgun if in a proper case on the back of the bike?   Then why not a backpack while walking?

 

Very gray area......

You can't carry a handgun to or from after you depart public transportation, without a carry permit, so the answer is no.

I would have to think about the answer to your question regarding a rifle

But he is not carrying it, but rather transporting it, complying with any other regulation there would be otherwise. Difference Being method of transportation.

Feet are a form of transportation. Wrapped in a secured bag with a lock should be fine. Anyway we all walk to the range door from our cars. Sometimes parking is a far walk. Can we get nabbed for carrying for that? I don't see any laws that you need to park within a certain number of to the range entry. The old bridge indoor range is in a semi residential area. I can't park on the resi street and walk on busy event days?

If I were the OP, I would wrap the handgun securely as required for transport in a car and only purchase ammunition at the range (and use it all up there.)

Technically you may be able to use public transportation although you should check with the carrier involved for their rules (NJ Transit, for instance). Many times there are old rules about declaring and surrendering firearms to the driver or captain or conductor, or outright bans on this on public transportation. Plus the chance of getting robbed. Realistically have someone give you a ride. Make a friend on this forum and split gas. Life is hard enough in NJ without being arrested on a bus. That would be a nightmare.

 

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Here is an alternative.  If you are going to the same range, ask them to hold the gun for you.

Here is an alternative.  If you are going to the same range, ask them to hold the gun for you.

That, I believe, would constitute an ILLEGAL TRANSFER

That, I believe, would constitute an ILLEGAL TRANSFER

 

if they have an FFL. =P  and you assign it to their books. there... covered the basics. 

Rays Sport Shop used to do that before they closed. They had a bank vault. Any place with a gunsmith on premises can do that. Leave it for cleaning.

 

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Rays Sport Shop used to do that before they closed. They had a bank vault. Any place with a gunsmith on premises can do that. Leave it for cleaning.

 

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The only issue would be getting the gun back, would require a nics/permit for a pistol, or nics/coe for rifles.

Isn't that only if you put the gun on consignment and then decide to get it back instead of selling it? Retrieving a gun you left with the gunsmith for service isn't a transfer. They just log it in and out of their bound book.

 

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Isn't that only if you put the gun on consignment and then decide to get it back instead of selling it? Retrieving a gun you left with the gunsmith for service isn't a transfer. They just log it in and out of their bound book.

 

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I remember a few years ago, if you put gun on consignment, you did not need permit to get it back.  NJSP then started enforcing iirc, and as such, if nics, get gun back, need permit.

 

Even for gunsmith/ffl.  Will wait for ffl to chime in.

 

But... if FFL logs gun in, typically it is in the book and needs nics to get back in nj.

The only issue would be getting the gun back, would require a nics/permit for a pistol, or nics/coe for rifles.

 

News to me. It's not like you're relinquishing possession. You still own the gun, it's just at the gunsmith's for repair/cleaning/service.

 

In fact I have a pistol away at Springfield Armory right now for the recall repair/upgrade and I do not need a PtP to get it back. 

Gunsmithing = No NICS

 

BUT, is storing really gunsmithing?

g.All weapons being transported under paragraph (2) of subsection b., subsection e., or paragraph (1) or (3) of subsection f. of this section shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunkof the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

 

You can't do it, unless you can fit yourself under par 2 of sub b, sub e or par 1 or 3 of sub f. Take a look at the statute. Under you hypo you do not fit under any of these, unless the range is  authorized to repair, and you leave for repair.

 

It is a bad idea and you are just asking for trouble.

g.All weapons being transported under paragraph (2) of subsection b., subsection e., or paragraph (1) or (3) of subsection f. of this section shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

 

I am not a lawyer and my wife frowns upon me staying in a Holiday Inn Express, but:

 

It does not prescribe that the weapon be transported IN an automobile.  I would posit that carrying it unloaded and in a closed and fastened case would be sufficient on public transportation, provided the carrier doesn't have conditions to the contrary published; but I would still not carry ammunition and I would not make any unnecessary deviations.

Oh no. You may ONLY transport it in an automobile.

 

Trucks, buses, trains, airplanes, bicycles, motorcycles, trailers, etc., are not permitted because the law doesn't grant you permission.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just kidding. It just goes to show you how stupid law makers can be. They have no common sense.

g.All weapons being transported under paragraph (2) of subsection b., subsection e., or paragraph (1) or (3) of subsection f. of this section shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

 

I am not a lawyer and my wife frowns upon me staying in a Holiday Inn Express, but:

 

It does not prescribe that the weapon be transported IN an automobile. I would posit that carrying it unloaded and in a closed and fastened case would be sufficient on public transportation, provided the carrier doesn't have conditions to the contrary published; but I would still not carry ammunition and I would not make any unnecessary deviations.

Why no ammo? Assuming not hollow points you could juggle the ammo enroute and not violate any laws.

 

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Why no ammo? Assuming not hollow points you could juggle the ammo enroute and not violate any laws.

 

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I am saying that I wouldn't; just to be on the safe side.  Granted you could keep it in a second compartment or second package, but I wouldn't want to be the test case.