A buddy of mine said the ultimate test for reliability (at least for

feeding) is to take a spent casing and see if you gun can chamber

it.  So I decided to give it a whirl on my Kimber TLE RL II as it's been

pretty reliable eating everything I've thrown at it including wad cutters.

I was pleasantly surprised.  

 

Anyone every run this test on their pistols?  

 

I'm not sure how much it really proves, but I am quite confident if it

can do three in a row consistently it'll eat anything else.

 

I have never heard of that test. What is it proving? In a controlled feed weapon like a 1911, if there are feeding issues it is typically the fault of the bullet/projectile on the feed ramp not the case/rim in the extractor.

I have never heard of that test. What is it proving? In a controlled feed weapon like a 1911, if there are feeding issues it is typically the fault of the bullet/projectile on the feed ramp not the case/rim in the extractor.

 

I suppose sometimes it can be the feed ramp as well.  I think the point is if it can load something with a flat surface it will definitely load something that is round to assist it in the chamber.

 

I'm not a gunsmith or anything so not saying this is the be all end all test.  

Fair enough.

I have never heard of that test. What is it proving? In a controlled feed weapon like a 1911, if there are feeding issues it is typically the fault of the bullet/projectile on the feed ramp not the case/rim in the extractor.

I think it might be an ok test if you are reloading that same fired brass and then shooting it again in that same pistol. I'd expect it to chamber because it was fire formed to that specific chamber. Then again lots of variables come into play, including how hot the load was.

 

The problem comes when you reload spent casings that were from another gun. They might not fit the chamber but the sizing die on the press should solve that.

 

I don't think I've heard of or give merit to that test anyway but if it makes someone feel good then have at it.

I have never heard of that test. What is it proving? In a controlled feed weapon like a 1911, if there are feeding issues it is typically the fault of the bullet/projectile on the feed ramp not the case/rim in the extractor.

 

The extractor almsot doesn't come into it. What it is is a test of the geometry between barrel hood, feed ramp, and mag lips. Which test the fitting of the gun and the state of the magazine. However, I have found empty cases to be a poor test, ESPECIALLY if your 1911 is heavily sprung. It'll jsut deform the case mouth a bit and shove it in. IMO you really jsut want to load up dummy rounds with some different bullet profiles as you want to see if anything will get a three point lockup between ramp, mag lips, and hood, and different profiles abuse diferent parts of the balance differently. 

That makes a lot more sense.

I think the logic is an empty is the ultimate hollow point test. I agree that the logic might be flawed especially since an empty is so short. If you want a real test, try and get it to run with ranier SWC's!!!!! They wouldnt even run in my old open class IPSC gun from the 90's and that thing is so loose it could chamber a baby rino!!

my old open class IPSC gun from the 90's and that thing is so loose it could chamber a baby rino!!

I know a girl like that

I know a girl like that

Hmmmmmm

 

 

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I think the logic is an empty is the ultimate hollow point test. I agree that the logic might be flawed especially since an empty is so short.

 

That's the other half of the problem with the test. The first way to step it up, if you have the components, is to take a regular 230gr or whatever, and seat it nose into the case so you wind up with a reinforced rim. The level of difficulty climbs rapidly. That'll test out your feed ramp. I agree, a heavy SWC or 250gr truncated cone loaded long are the best test of the three point jam potential.