You have an imminent need. This is the fifth Range Rover carjacking in NJ in 2013. Now finally a victim has been killed. So if you have a Range Rover you are a demonstrable target.

 

I'd love to see someone try this.

 

OK, I know. Faint hope.

The vehicle was found in Newark

Go figure

Not justifiable in this state. Ruling would be that if your vehicle puts your life in danger, then find another car to drive.

It's sick that our state defines justifiable need so narrowly.  How about, "There have been a lot of carjackings (and other shootings), and I fear for my life."

 

When are we going to be allowed to defend ourselves against these predatory dirtbags?

When are we going to be allowed to defend ourselves against these predatory dirtbags?

 

 

Not until we get rid of the predatory dirtbags in the Statehouse.

A Subaru was seen fleeing also. Very typical of the area. I've been around the Subaru scene for a long time and went to school in Newark. The thieves love to take Subarus as their dirty work cars. Scum...

I believe the definition of "Justifiable need" is that you have been shot at a minimum of three times and have actually been hit twice.

Where did the jackers get their FID and PP from? Did they have to wait up to six months and one every 30?

A Subaru was seen fleeing also. Very typical of the area. I've been around the Subaru scene for a long time and went to school in Newark. The thieves love to take Subarus as their dirty work cars. Scum...

As the recent owner of a new Forester, that doesn't make me very happy to know.

It's a disturbing trend that more people are killed for their property. Normally thieves want the car but not the murder or attempted murder charge. I don't know if he resisted and was shot or they just shot him and took it. Either way it's a shame that people can't protect themselves. Also shows the lack of situational awareness people have. I'm surprised the car was dumped and isn't on a ship to another country

They banged up the side of it and shot out the back window. Too much damage to make it onto a ship. It was all for nothing.

Inside job was the only way this made any sense.

The Bryant Park ice rink shooting was over a Marmot Mammoth parka…

 

Your life means very little to these people.

Hmmm African Americans ,Newark, go figure. They killed the guy over a frigging car, now his wife has to relive those moments for the rest of her life. The families

are forever traumatized .

 I believe in public executions, i want to watch these two thug scumbags die ..

You have to be diligent and hyper aware of your surroundings . The fact that the POS politicians have security and we have no way to protect ourselves

makes my blood boil!.

 

 I am not now nor will i ever be politically correct.

 

It's a disturbing trend that more people are killed for their property. Normally thieves want the car but not the murder or attempted murder charge. I don't know if he resisted and was shot or they just shot him and took it. Either way it's a shame that people can't protect themselves. Also shows the lack of situational awareness people have. I'm surprised the car was dumped and isn't on a ship to another country

 

 

Killing people simply to avoid leaving witnesses during robberies is as old as robbery itself. Happened to a kid we knew working at a gas station during the 1980s, happened to a neighborhood family when their house was robbed in the 80s as well.

 

As far as lack of situational awareness is concerned, he had no way to fight back. If they were hiding and waiting for the car owner, then drew on him, he was SOL.

Not justifiable in this state. Ruling would be that if your vehicle puts your life in danger, then find another car to drive.

Sad, but true

One dead husband and a wife's shattered life is acceptable so long as dangerous guns and the bullets that kill people can be kept out of the hands of the innocent. Or so the logic would appear.

A Subaru was seen fleeing also. Very typical of the area. I've been around the Subaru scene for a long time and went to school in Newark. The thieves love to take Subarus as their dirty work cars. Scum...

Why do you think I only own subarus!

I know the father, I just saw him a few weeks ago. What a shame!

It's a disturbing trend that more people are killed for their property. Normally thieves want the car but not the murder or attempted murder charge. I don't know if he resisted and was shot or they just shot him and took it. Either way it's a shame that people can't protect themselves. Also shows the lack of situational awareness people have. I'm surprised the car was dumped and isn't on a ship to another country

 

http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2013/12/sources_victim_in_deadly_short_hills_mall_carjacking_struggled_with_attackers.html

 

Apparently he resisted.

As the recent owner of a new Forester, that doesn't make me very happy to know.

They mostly go after the WRXs and STIs, but since parts can (or at least used to) cross over a lot, be smart about your security! Or if you have a non-turbo one, you're generally good to go.

 

They banged up the side of it and shot out the back window. Too much damage to make it onto a ship. It was all for nothing.

Was probably just for a joy ride. I've seen that happen around the area. They'll just speed around 78, GSP, NJTP.

They banged up the side of it and shot out the back window. Too much damage to make it onto a ship. It was all for nothing.

This.  Unreal that this guy lost his life for absolutely nothing.  I'd be willing to bet after they ditched the car they went to McDonalds and the animals didn't give it another thought...

We must make this an issue and not let it fall out if the news.

And number SIX happened in South Orange Sunday night. This time the carjackers made a house call.

 

If I personally owned a Range Rover, regardless of where I lived, I would be on alert for any other cars following me. Especially to my home.

 

Of course if the thieves would be considerate enough to follow me into my garage...

 

(OK, yes I know all the scenarios that would work against me. But I enjoy Hollywood once in a while too.)

Don't forget the family attacked by bikers in NYC was in a Range Rover also.

And number SIX happened in South Orange Sunday night. This time the carjackers made a house call.

 

Are there links for the carjackings? I'm curious how there is a tally being kept.

I don't have links, but you can search as appropriate for the previous four.

 

4/19/13 Range Rover carjacked at gunpoint from Woodbridge mall;
4/25/13 Range Rover carjacked at gunpoint from Parsippany Wawa;
5/8/13 Range Rover carjacked at gunpoint from Cranford Dunkin Donuts
7/13/13 Range Rover carjacked at gunpoint from Hoboken.
 

Latest reports have him refusing to give up the keys because his wife was still in the car.

Previous NJ Range Rover carjackings:

 

12/16/12 Hoboken, gunpoint - http://http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.ssf/2012/12/a_23-year-old_mans_range_rover.html (45Doll didn't list this one, but it came up when searching for the others)

 

4/19/13 Woodbridge, pistol whipped - http://em.gmnews.com/news/2013-05-01/Front_Page/Police_investigate_carjacking_at_Woodbridge_Center.html

 

4/25/13 Parsippany, gunpoint - http://www.nj.com/morris/index.ssf/2013/04/two_gunpoint_carjackings_in_pa.html (Range Rover was carjacked from dealership, not the WaWa, that was a BMW)

 

5/5/13 Cranford, knifepoint - http://cranford.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/woman-carjacked-at-knife-point-in-parking-lot-of-cranb3f282c6a9 (Carjacked with knife, not at gunpoint)

 

7/27/13 Hoboken, no weapon described in article, driver physically forced from vehicle - http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2013/07/thieves_snag_land_rover_and_bmw_in_hoboken_carjacking_theft.html

Good job there DD. Nice cleanup of the particulars too. I only looked in 2013.

 

Why don't you get a part time news job? NONE of the NJ media have been able to connect the dots so far.

 

By the way: while commenting on this episode yesterday, Eric Bolling of The Five on Fox News remarked that he lives three miles from the Short Hills mall, near some less desirable urban areas, and that he might apply for his license to carry. I emailed him that he will have no luck with that application, unless he has some financial and/or political connections he can leverage. I also told him if he wanted to make a NJ project out of it I'd be happy to guide him through it.

 

No response so far. I'll be very surprised if I get one.