I am mostly looking at the triggers here. The ar will be used for some tactical classes as well as some fun precision shooting.

I'm doing some research and have never used a 2 stage trigger.

 

Is the rra 2 stage trigger too light for tactical use or should I go with the spikes with the single stage trigger.

 

I have seen the rra 2stage lpk for 150 and the spikes enhanced lpk for 95 so the price difference isn't an issue.

 

Anyone have experience with these?

thanks in advance!

I've shot the RRA 2 stage once. It was a decent trigger but didn't compare to my Geissele SSA. Of the two you have listed thats what I would go with. It will work well in a class and on the range. If you are open to other options, a Geissele would top my list of suggestions. Either a SSA(-E) for 2 stage or the S3G(-E) for single. Ill probably use the S3G on my next build.

After trying a few (RRA, Timmey, Wilson, Geissele, slicked up Colt mil-spec) and seeing many more in use (and failing/breaking) in classes I have taught or been a student in,, I have come to the conclusion that the only aftermarket trigger I would put in a gun dedicated to real world tactical use is the Geissele SSA. It has the track record, the reputation, and the reliability, all in one smooth trigger. I have SSA triggers in all of my carbines except the issued FA rifles (our policy forbids it or I would have put one in there too) and the DMR rifle I built - that has an SD-Combat trigger in it.

 

The Geissele triggers labeled as E (enhanced) as well as the S3G trigger I consider too light for a "social" gun for real CQB work. Stick with the SSA and SSA-D.

 

If you are only interested in tactical training/classes and the carbine is not going to be one you bet your life, or the lives of others, on, then either the Spikes or the RRA should - maybe - serve you well. But if it were my rifle would still go with the Geissele SSA.

I've shot the RRA 2 stage once. It was a decent trigger but didn't compare to my Geissele SSA. Of the two you have listed thats what I would go with. It will work well in a class and on the range. If you are open to other options, a Geissele would top my list of suggestions. Either a SSA(-E) for 2 stage or the S3G(-E) for single. Ill probably use the S3G on my next build.

 

Ignorance is bliss right? Maybe I should ask some one who hasnt used a $200+ trigger .

just kidding

Thanks for your input

After trying a few (RRA, Timmey, Wilson, Geissele, slicked up Colt mil-spec) and seeing many more in use (and failing/breaking) in classes I have taught or been a student in,, I have come to the conclusion that the only aftermarket trigger I would put in a gun dedicated to real world tactical use is the Geissele SSA. It has the track record, the reputation, and the reliability, all in one smooth trigger. I have SSA triggers in all of my carbines except the issued FA rifles (our policy forbids it or I would have put one in there too) and the DMR rifle I built - that has an SD-Combat trigger in it.

 

The Geissele triggers labeled as E (enhanced) as well as the S3G trigger I consider too light for a "social" gun for real CQB work. Stick with the SSA and SSA-D.

 

If you are only interested in tactical training/classes and the carbine is not going to be one you bet your life, or the lives of others, on, then either the Spikes or the RRA should - maybe - serve you well. But if it were my rifle would still go with the Geissele SSA.

 

 

If its an issue of failure I would spend the extra money. While im not in law enforcement/military. The current state of our country warrants a life dependable weapon.

Just curios what are the weak point of those triggers. I have never seen one break then again I am fairly new to the ar.

Thanks

Geissele is where its at.. I have two of the super dynamic enhanced.. and will be buying a 3rd.. that is $750 on triggers.. if they werent good I wouldn't be putting out that kind of money.. 

Geissele is where its at.. I have two of the super dynamic enhanced.. and will be buying a 3rd.. that is $750 on triggers.. if they werent good I wouldn't be putting out that kind of money.. 

 Good point.

If its an issue of failure I would spend the extra money. While im not in law enforcement/military. The current state of our country warrants a life dependable weapon.

Just curios what are the weak point of those triggers. I have never seen one break then again I am fairly new to the ar.

Thanks

I have seen broken disconnecters, snapped hammer/trigger pins, and broken and chipped hammers. I have also,seen some of them choke just from getting dirt, mud, crud in there, while other rifles being shot in the same conditions (including Geissele triggers) keep on running.

 

Granted I don't know the firing history, maintenance performed, or the quality of the other parts in the rifles I have seen trigger fail in, but, I have yet to see a Geissele or true mil-spec trigger fail for anything other than a popped primer lodged in the lower.

OK after watching a few videos on youtube Im sold on the geissele products.

OK after watching a few videos on youtube Im sold on the geissele products.

 

the product is unreal... 

Hey have you thought about the ALG ACT triggers I just got two and they are very nice. Smooth and crisp no grinding like a mil spec but retains the same poundage of a mil spec trigger... the company is owned by Mr. Gs wife and manufactured in the same plant that the SSA triggers.....

I'll say this, the actual performance between an rra 2 stage and giessele isn't THAT noticeable certainly not for the price difference. However, the reliability aspect is different. I have an SSA-E in my DMR, and an RRA in my lightweight. The only reason i went with the Geissele was for improved reliability, i plan on getting the standard SSA one day to replace the RRA, but i will keep the RRA because it's still a good trigger. IMO it comes down to what your using it for and what your OK with spending.

well I went to the oaks gun show on Friday and the had a full test set and I was blown away. I liked the ssa-e the best. I am going to get a lpk minus the grip and trigger group and save for the ssa-e

thanks for all your help!

After trying a few (RRA, Timmey, Wilson, Geissele, slicked up Colt mil-spec) and seeing many more in use (and failing/breaking) in classes I have taught or been a student in,, I have come to the conclusion that the only aftermarket trigger I would put in a gun dedicated to real world tactical use is the Geissele SSA. It has the track record, the reputation, and the reliability, all in one smooth trigger. I have SSA triggers in all of my carbines except the issued FA rifles (our policy forbids it or I would have put one in there too) and the DMR rifle I built - that has an SD-Combat trigger in it.

 

The Geissele triggers labeled as E (enhanced) as well as the S3G trigger I consider too light for a "social" gun for real CQB work. Stick with the SSA and SSA-D.

 

If you are only interested in tactical training/classes and the carbine is not going to be one you bet your life, or the lives of others, on, then either the Spikes or the RRA should - maybe - serve you well. But if it were my rifle would still go with the Geissele SSA.

no KAC?  this one has the track record and proven reliability as well

 

 

I would also recommend armalites tactical 2 stage as it's real nice, have yet to hear of one breaking, and is only $100.....for the RRA 2 stage fans

well I went to the oaks gun show on Friday and the had a full test set and I was blown away. I liked the ssa-e the best. I am going to get a lpk minus the grip and trigger group and save for the ssa-e

always the best option, lpk without the trigger and get what you want!

 

singles I go jp with speed hammer

doubles I go KAC, newer ones

 

beater builds from parts etc that I'm doing recently, I go with lwrc battle triggers as I refuse to buy a alg that is nothing more than a mil spec polished......