Just wanting to confirm that the buyer needs a NJDL and the yellow FID card.

Thanks

Anytime I've sold pistol ammo, I've asked to see both.

 

May be over the top but best bet to protect yourself.

No person shall sell, give, transfer, assign or otherwise dispose of, or receive, purchase, or otherwise acquire handgun ammunition unless the purchaser, assignee, donee, receiver or holder is licensed as a manufacturer, wholesaler, or dealer under this chapter or is the holder of and possesses a valid firearms purchaser identification card, a valid copy of a permit to purchase a handgun, or a valid permit to carry a handgun and first exhibits such card or permit to the seller, donor, transferor or assignor.

No person shall sell, give, transfer, assign or otherwise dispose of handgun ammunition to a person who is under 21 years of age.

so Paul's short answer is "just an FID is necessary"..  

or a pistol permit.

Thank you

or a NJ carry permit, if you happen to be so Blessed.

or a NJ carry permit, if you happen to be so Blessed.

 

I've seen more unicorns.

I believe a Unicorn could get a NJ carry permit before any of us could.

 

Damn - that's discrimination!  Call the ACLU (the Ambitious Club of Lucky Unicorns) and complain!!

or a NJ carry permit, if you happen to be so Blessed.

 

They said nothing about NJ carry permit.

 

I will show my Utah and see how far that gets me, LOL. 

They said nothing about NJ carry permit.

 

I will show my Utah and see how far that gets me, LOL. 

 

It's a NJ law. Why would they write in exemptions from other states? Try again.

Just a question, I was at a local gun store and a gentleman came in to purchase some 9mm and the salesman behind the counter asjed to see his FID.  The gentleman making the purchase informed him that he didn't have an FID and really didn't know what it was since he was from out of state, PA I believe.  He was informed that he could not purchase said handgun ammo without an FID or pistol purchase permit but when he informed them that he had a PA CCW permit, which he showed them and they sold him the ammo.

 

So, my question, is this correct?

I usually agree with PK90, but it says, "or a valid permit to carry a handgun." The part that says "under this chapter" is separated by "or". I'd be satisfied by a CCW, but It is seller discretion.

so Paul's short answer is "just an FID is necessary"..  

An 18 year old can hold an valid FPID, so it would be wise to ask for both.. right?

...it says, "or a valid permit to carry a handgun."...

"Valid" is the key word here. Your carry permit would not be valid in NJ.

 

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An 18 year old can hold an valid FPID, so it would be wise to ask for both.. right?

Is there a birth date on your FPID?

 

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"Valid" is the key word here. Your carry permit would not be valid in NJ.

 

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Touche. At that point you'll be arguing the what the definition of "is" is in court. FID wins.

"Valid" is the key word here. Your carry permit would not be valid in NJ.

 

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It didn't say where it would be valid.

Is there a birth date on your FPID?

 

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Ahhh good point.

Never understood why anyone for whatever reason ineligible to buy ammo in NJ would even bother trying to do this in this state if he/she can make an hour drive to PA (deeper into the state the better) and in most instances buy any reasonable amount of ANY ammo in any Walmart even without showing an ID to anyone (well, sometimes they ask for DL, but I'd say in 7 out of 10 instances they just don't do even that)...

Never understood why anyone for whatever reason ineligible to buy ammo in NJ would even bother trying to do this in this state if he/she can make an hour drive to PA (deeper into the state the better) and in most instances buy any reasonable amount of ANY ammo in any Walmart even without showing an ID to anyone (well, sometimes they ask for DL, but I'd say in 7 out of 10 instances they just don't do even that)...

 

 

What happens when they see our NJ DL? Do they still sell it to us?

What happens when they see our NJ DL? Do they still sell it to us?

 

Ammo - yes, no questions asked. Tried many times in Walmarts and gun stores in FL, GA, TN, NC, VA, PA during my recent trip to FL.

Firearms in Walmart - friggin' no. Can't buy even a cheapest bolt action rifle in PA or elsewhere, hardcoded in their system to tell NJers to f**k off.

 

But again - maybe that's because I'm a fat guy with a beard and I am obviously older than 21, but 7 out of 10 - nobody even asks me for a DL when buying ammo...

I've bought rifles outside of NJ. The issue is they don't know the law here and would like to err on the side of caution.

ammo, yes 100%.  They don't even check your DL normally. 

 

Long guns, yes if they know the law.  Walmart is 50/50, further west in PA and they don't care. 

 

Really? Have you actually tried buying any firearms in Walmart with NJ license?

I am curious because it has the cheapest Crickett youth rifle available - they sell it for $109+tax compared to $179 at Gander Mtn in NY or $159 (even if it is in stock which is rare) at HG Easton.

From what I've been told by an older gentleman at firearms counter in Walmart near Easton, PA, their system is designed in a way that the moment they choose "NJ" in a list of states for the customer's DL, it just does not allow them to proceed any further - end of story. I even politely asked to speak to a manager and asked about manual overrides, exceptions etc, but as I expected - none are possible and they blame the system that is "hardcoded" to intimidate NJ/NY residents, LOL :-)

 

They even have a map on they computers that allows you to choose a state of the store and it shows all states residents of which can NOT buy firearms there. I don't remember the whole list, but what surprised me was that VA was also in a restricted list... (obviously MD, NJ, MA, NY were there as well)

Really? Have you actually tried buying any firearms in Walmart with NJ license?

I am curious because it has the cheapest Crickett youth rifle available - they sell it for $109+tax compared to $179 at Gander Mtn in NY or $159 (even if it is in stock which is rare) at HG Easton.

From what I've been told by an older gentleman at firearms counter in Walmart near Easton, PA, their system is designed in a way that the moment they choose "NJ" in a list of states for the customer's DL, it just does not allow them to proceed any further - end of story.

I'm asking just because your wording. Do you show them a NJ license or a NJ FID? Big difference..... I have never had a problem out of state.

 

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I'm asking just because your wording. Do you show them a NJ license or a NJ FID? Big difference..... I have never had a problem out of state.

Sorry, I meant NJ Driver's license, but I had NJ FID on me as well.

So, what you are saying is that you were actually able to buy firearms in Walmart somewhere in PA or elsewhere recently with NJ DL?

Within the part year a picked up a nylon 66 from cabela's. My friend while I was with him bought a ruger american from gander mountain (Pittsburg area) along with a 10/22 take down. I bought a maverick 88 and 10/22 from Walmart (springfield area) in July,august.

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EDIT: I know shops can/will use discretion. Maybe I just got lucky.
 

Thanks, good to know about Walmart (btw, you mean Springfield, Mass., right?)

I can confirm about Gander Mtn as well - I was in one of their NY locations (~20 mi to the west from Monroe, can't remember the town) and they told me that they could sell a long gun to NJ res.

My only concern was actually Walmart :-) Good to know if that is not their nationwide policy against us, LOL

Thanks, good to know about Walmart (btw, you mean Springfield, Mass., right?)

I can confirm about Gander Mtn as well - I was in one of their NY locations (~20 mi to the west from Monroe, can't remember the town) and they told me that they could sell a long gun to NJ res.

My only concern was actually Walmart :-) Good to know if that is not their nationwide policy against us, LOL

Walmart Springfield pa off 476.

 

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EMT_SAR, thanks,

 

I actually ended up sending a message to Walmart Corporate asking to clarify their policy as I was unable to find it anywhere online, but at the same time guys at Eason Walmart apparently were not morons, but were really showing me the screen on their computer with a map that definitely looked legit (in terms of that they have not made this up by themselves)... I am not holding my breath expecting some reasonable answer (or probably an answer at all), but it costs me nothing to give it a try.

Would be still quite strange if Wally just decided to exclude more than 35MM Americans (population of only NJ, NY and MA, but there were other states in the list as well) from their firearm sales client base without even trying to investigate this matter a little further...