So I have a friend that recently moved to PA, and I asked him if he minded if I bought a non-NJ compliant upper, if I had it shipped to him, and when I went to hang out with him I'd make it NJ compliant and bring it back home with me. He told me he recently talked to his local PD in PA for whatever reason, and they actually told him in PA they have to ship uppers through an FFL now. Not only uppers, but barrels and things of that nature also. I've never heard of such a thing, and when I went to search on the internet for something about this, but couldn't find anything. This guy just BS'd my friend, didn't he?

 

Sorry if this is in the wrong section, not really sure where it belongs...

Total bs

 

 

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Also if you don't have a complete lower you in your possession then you can have an uncomplaining upper

 

 

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The only thing that is regulated through an FFL is a serialized lower receiver.  Anything else can be mailed anywhere, anytime (assuming the sum of parts in your possession do not constitute an "assault weapon")

Sounds like BS, especially for a state like PA. The only component that's the actual firearm is the lower. Maybe that's your friends polite way of saying he doesn't want anything to do with it. Have any other friends or family in NJ without firearms? Just have it shipped there instead.

 

He'll, even some FFL's will accept shipments of items so you can pick them up at no cost if you're friendly.

Total bs

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Sounds like BS, especially for a state like PA. The only component that's the actual firearm is the lower. Maybe that's your friends polite way of saying he doesn't want anything to do with it. Have any other friends or family in NJ without firearms? Just have it shipped there instead.

 

He'll, even some FFL's will accept shipments of items so you can pick them up at no cost if you're friendly.

Maybe... He's a big gun guy too, so I don't think it's that, but you never know...

 

So I can have a non compliant upper in NJ, as long as I don't have a lower in the same household or area to readily make it a fully (noncompliant) functional rifle? I was trying to order either parts (barrel, comp, gasblock) or a full upper off Cheaper than Dirt, but they said they won't ship to NJ... Do all websites ship if you explain it to them, or do only certain websites allow you to do that? I can ship it to my mom, and make it fully compliant in her garage and bring it to mine if that's the case, she doesn't own any firearms. 

F cheaper than dirt. Almost every other retailer I know if will send it to you. Bravo Company had no issues sending me an NFA unpinned 14.5 inch complete upper to NYC. Look elsewhere for your needs.

Sounds like BS, especially for a state like PA. The only component that's the actual firearm is the lower. Maybe that's your friends polite way of saying he doesn't want anything to do with it. Have any other friends or family in NJ without firearms? Just have it shipped there instead.

It is BS, but it is more likely the cops are either full of shit or don't know the law. If you ask a cop a firearm law question, you will get an incorrect answer more than 50% of the time. If the bad answer is in your favor, you can not use it as a due diligence defense at trial - their advice is worthless.

 

Never a point in asking cops such questions. Not even the NJSP firearms law expert, who is zero for two regarding questions I asked. Nothing short of a letter addressed to you personally by the AG will do you any good. And even then it is up to them to intervene, since NJ courts have ruled (without using the words) that NJ gun laws are Strict Liability.

I would just ship it to your house and have the compliance work done as soon as you can.

As checko said, if mailing and working on it in NJ in a place that can't readily make it into a full noncompliant weapon is legal, then I'll mail it to one of my parents, make it compliant there, then bring it back to my house. Problem is a lot of places that are selling the parts within my budget (MidwayUSA, Cheaper Than Dirt, Sportsmans Guide, ect.) flat out won't ship that stuff to NJ. I know I should go with a more reputable company anyway (like BC like Checko suggested), but I simply don't have the money for that right now and am not sure when I will.

What's your price range. We'll fins you something to work with. Did you see the spikes upper I posted?

Check our jse surplus they have complete kits to get you going and will shit to nj no problem. They are not your upper tier parts but they source quality components for each kit

 

 

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I can't really see anything atm, as I'm currently at work taking a lunch break, and this comp won't do pics and some links. I did check out that JSE Surplus a second ago. That's deff more my price range. I was finding on the sites that won't ship here barrels w/ the a2 front sight base/gas block for approx $160 so i was hoping for that with a max of under $200... I believe I have a barrel nut, delta ring assembly, handguards, and handguard cap, so technically I don't need them. I'll grab a $15 gas tube from somewhere. I'm trying to make an AR for my father in law, something that is close to his M16 from vietnam, but just smaller (like a modern AR).  I already have the lower done with an A2 solid stock, and I have everything for the upper minus the barrel/gas block assembly, and the BCG/charging handle.

 

Liking this off the JSE Surplus, but is the lack of chrome lining really important?

http://www.jsesurplus.com/16M41x7Nitride5.56BarrelwithFrontSightBase.aspx

http://www.jsesurplus.com/Del-Ton16M41x75.56ChromeLinedCarbine.aspx

Had I just scrolled down. Lol.

 

Later today I'ma give them a call and find out if the gas block/front sight is already on the barrel... cuz I don't wanna have to drill and taper pin that thing on, lol. Do barrels normally come already on, or as parts and you have to get it put on?

Not sure if this is the answer you are asking for....If you're just buying a barrel it's just a barrel...you can't install the barrel with the gas block on as the barrel nut will not be able to slide over the barrel.....you may however find a barrel that has a barrel nut and gas block on it already... I'm not sure..I've just bought bare barrels

Well, that one I linked says 'includes sight tower, sight parts, swivel, barrel nut & handguard cap' and the pic shows them on the barrel, but I dunno if they come on it or as a parts kit and I have to put it together... I really don't want to have to get the front sight base/gas block installed when I get it, I'd prefer it already be done.

Ohh sorry I didn't click the link..it probably comes assembled then .....but in all honesty...if it didn't it's painfully simple to slide the nut on, hand guard cap, sight/gasblock and tap in the 2pins....no smith should be needed

If the gas port is drilled already then its as simple as putting 2 pins in. I think you can manage if you put a lower together.

Chrome lining increases reliability, extraction, and service life, but it is not a necessity. For the cost I personally would get it though.

 

For the price range youre looking at, why don't you look at a stag complete upper.

 

http://www.stagarms.com/model-3h/

I actually have this and Ive been very happy with it.

 

For about the same price you can get a BCM WITHOUT a charging handle and bcg.

 

Are you trying to piece it together because of budget reasons?

Just remembered you wanted a FSP. If you call stag to order they will usually switch it for free. Oh and make it nj compliant for free.

Chrome lining increases reliability, extraction, and service life, but it is not a necessity. For the cost I personally would get it though.

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Just ordered what I'm gonna use...

http://www.jsesurplus.com/Del-Ton16M41x75.56ChromeLinedCarbine.aspx

 

With a YHM 5M2 compensator, flat front. Thanks everyone for your help, I'll deff post a pic when it's done! If this build goes well, I'm probably gonna make another for myself.    

 

In case any of you guys were curious how it turned out. Thanks for all the help!!