I have searched but on my phone nothing really comes up. Was looking at a wheeler ar professional tool kit but I don't want to buy tools I may not need. I have not bought my first part for my build yet. It will be the Nj2AS lower if we get the go ahead on it. So does anyone have a good place that has a list of tools needed with which brands are best?

 

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http://www.brownells.com/UserDocs/Miscellaneous/ARCLform.pdf

 

scroll to the end of the list.

http://www.brownells.com/UserDocs/Miscellaneous/ARCLform.pdf

 

scroll to the end of the list.

 

My favorite PDF for planning builds

I'll check it out. Do they sell all the tools as a kit?

 

 

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Why buy it as a kit, instead of picking the tools you need when you need them instead of bundled stuff you might never use?

I thought that was a list of every tool I would need to build one

 

 

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+1 Brownells. They are not cheap, but you should find everything you need there.

Why buy it as a kit, instead of picking the tools you need when you need them instead of bundled stuff you might never use?

I made that mistake of buying everything on brownells.list. I had several things still in the package when I was done. If your in north jersey you can borrow what u need.

If your in north jersey you can borrow what u need.

 

He's in TR. (Central) but he can probably still borrow what he needs regardless.

 

Maybe someone will give you a bare minimum quantity of tools, followed by a "it would be nice to have", followed further by a "and if you have Bill Gates' money" list.

He's in TR. (Central) but he can probably still borrow what he needs regardless.

 

Maybe someone will give you a bare minimum quantity of tools, followed by a "it would be nice to have", followed further by a "and if you have Bill Gates' money" list.

 

you are right. I don't mind buying tools I know I will use. I think the minimum and nice to have list would be good for me. Haha

 

 

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I bought an ar15 armorer's wrench.. everything else I did with common house hold tools.. 

I bought an ar15 armorer's wrench.. everything else I did with common house hold tools..

I'll have to print out and look at the list. I may have a lot of them already.

 

 

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I bought an ar15 armorer's wrench.. everything else I did with common house hold tools.. 

If you have no tools the bare minimum would be the armorers wrench, vice, upper vice block and a cheap set of punches. The vice and block are really only for one thing and thats the barrel. I built my AR with nothing more then those tools.

If you have no tools the bare minimum would be the armorers wrench, vice, upper vice block and a cheap set of punches. The vice and block are really only for one thing and thats the barrel. I built my AR with nothing more then those tools.

 

So if you bought a complete upper you wouldn't need the viSe and block?

So if you bought a complete upper you wouldn't need the viSe and block?

Correct. The upper vise block gives you the leverage you need to torque the barrel nut on/off, also helps with a muzzle device but that's a moot point in NJ. Everything else basically pops on or screws together. It's really a must for barrel attachment and absolutely necessary for removal. You can also get away with not using a lower block pretty easily although it may be easier to assembly with one since the castle nut requires little torque, but i have never used one and never found it difficult.

if you are not doing the upper you can build the gun in your lap... 

I made the mistake of ordering a lower vise block. It's still in the package. The upper block I used for installing the foward assist as well as the barrel. Thats all its really needed for. And my lowers I.did in my lap.

What would be joe advantage of not doing my own upper. If any

 

 

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I think alot of people think its more difficult or dont want to buy the tools. Your going to need a barrel wrench and torque wrench vise and block.

Roger that. Thanks

 

 

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Dont let that scare you though. I liked building an upper. Its actually easier than a lower imo.

Oh it won't. The more challenging to me the better!

 

 

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You need a punch set as well. I also cheated and used a barrel wrench with a torque wrench and left it at that to assemble my upper. 

 

Its been awhile but I may have used vise grips to install my bolt catch.

You need a punch set as well. I also cheated and used a barrel wrench with a torque wrench and left it at that to assemble my upper. 

 

Its been awhile but I may have used vise grips to install my bolt catch.

there is a tool from brownells to make the bolt catch easier to install. i had it but didnt realize on my first build and didnt use it. The next lower i built i used and it made it simple.

i've done a few lowers myself.  both mine and with friends.  there is a few differences between what i think i NEED vs what i'd like to have doing more.  

 

 

for the lower.  i generally think the following tools are what i would have.  

 

1.  i used a razor blade and an allen wrench for the front pivot pin install

2.  use a correct size punch for the trigger guard

3.  use a correct size punch for the bolt catch lever pin (i prefer to start this with a roll pin starter punch)

4.  for the castle nut you need a wrench.  i also have a torque wrench and a magazine well block and a vice to put it all in as its way easier than torquing it down in your lap

5.  stake the castle nut with the $10 home depot automatic punch tool.  

6.  long screwdriver for grip screw.  need some leverage on that sucker sometimes, especially if there is any loctite on the screw

7.  brass hammer

 

 

i haven't built an upper yet but it seems you'd need a punch for the forward assist, vice,  upper vice block or geissele rod, torque wrench, barrel nut grease, and a barrel nut wrench for whatever type of barrel nut you are using.  something to weld on a brake.  and some way to pin the gas block.  

Painters tape goes a long way while installing the bolt catch.

i actually found i like a thin piece of cardboard on both sides.  the pin punches with the rounded top are nice too.  and the longer the thin part of the punch the better

 

 

 

PS.  if a mod reads this, i think i accidentally reported it instead of hitting the quote button.  

Here is the recommended tool list handed out at Colt Armorer School:

 

 

The part numbers listed correspond to Brownell's.

 

It's a great list if you at working on a lot of guns, or planning on building more than a couple. You can do most work on an AR with minimal tools, but the ones listed above make life much easier.