I have my original AR which I stripped some parts to add to my main rifle/sell for some cash.  I'm thinking of getting away from the normal red dot for this one and possibly going for a low power adjustable/prism style scope.  

 

I don't hunt, I'm not a huge bullseye shooter, but would like a  longer range type rifle.  Would this be a good choice?  Or is it basically the same as my red dot and magnifier?

 

http://www.amazon.com/Burris-300208-AR-332-Prism-Sight/dp/B002QEUPEE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1392085604&sr=8-3&keywords=prism+scope

 

My specs on the upper is a Stag 3H with Plus package. 1/7 twist, 16" barrel with miculek comp, standard spikes lpk-trigger group.   I'm thinking about putting the ACT trigger group in it as well.

I'd save the money and go for the nikon P223 3x if i were in that type of market, unless you want the illuminated reticule. Put that saved money towards a trigger.

I am not sure what you mean by not a bullseye shooter, but looking for a longer range shooter.. what I mean by that is the following.. I have a 308 AR that I shoot longer with precision in mind and for that I use a traditional 3-9 magnification Leupold and it works very well for that application.. for my less precise rig (14in pinned to 16) I can hit man sized targets out to 300 with a red dot and magnifier...

 

so if you are just looking for range and not precise placement then what you picked or a simple red dot with a cheap magnifier would do the same... but give you the advantage of removing the magnifier in case you wanted to run it closer without any magnification.. 

 

trigger makes all the difference in the world IMO... 

That Nikon looks nice. 4x12 should do well.

 

I don't need to robin hood every bullet, but I want to have effective hits out farther. My eotech and mag does well but I want a dedicated "long range" out to like 500 yards

That Nikon looks nice. 4x12 should do well.

 

I don't need to robin hood every bullet, but I want to have effective hits out farther. My eotech and mag does well but I want a dedicated "long range" out to like 500 yards

 

if you are shooting 500 yards and are building an upper dedicated for that type of shooting I would not be looking at anything other than a scope with good magnification.. 

if you are shooting 500 yards and are building an upper dedicated for that type of shooting I would not be looking at anything other than a scope with good magnification..

Would 4x12 for the bill? 500 would be few and far between at the max range. Also the upper is built already so is it realistic for what I have?

Would 4x12 for the bill? 500 would be few and far between at the max range. Also the upper is built already so is it realistic for what I have?

 

what do you mean 4x12?

if you mean 4-12x as in a variable power scope.. then sure that is likely a good option.. but even at 300 9x is a little less than I wish I had..

 

I shoot 556 to 300 yards.. and I dont consider that "easy" 500 to me would really be a stretch for me personally with that round...

what strength is your magnifier.. mine is 3x.. and again 300 is pushing it (again for me) 

 

a variable power scope is nice when you start to talk about "anywhere from 100 - X00" because what is ideal at 100 is not necessarily ideal at 300.... a variable power scope gives you a lot of options.. 

and I know you said you are not a bullseye shooter but when you really get some range on the gun slow paced calculated shots become the norm.. and the goal tends to become more of an accuracy game..

 

what is the max distance you have shot now? do you have a spotting scope? 

this post has some great pictures if you are not already shooting at that distance to appreciate just how small a target is at that distance.. 

 

http://beta.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=492894

4-12x should be fine out to 500. You don't need to see your holes.  Just the same spot on the target. 

what do you mean 4x12?

if you mean 4-12x as in a variable power scope.. then sure that is likely a good option.. but even at 300 9x is a little less than I wish I had..

 

I shoot 556 to 300 yards.. and I dont consider that "easy" 500 to me would really be a stretch for me personally with that round...

what strength is your magnifier.. mine is 3x.. and again 300 is pushing it (again for me)

 

a variable power scope is nice when you start to talk about "anywhere from 100 - X00" because what is ideal at 100 is not necessarily ideal at 300.... a variable power scope gives you a lot of options..

and I know you said you are not a bullseye shooter but when you really get some range on the gun slow paced calculated shots become the norm.. and the goal tends to become more of an accuracy game..

 

what is the max distance you have shot now? do you have a spotting scope?

I did mean 4-12x, sorry. I have a 3x mag on the other rifle. I think the variable might be the way to go. I have a spotting scope that goes up to 60x I want to say.

 

I definitely agree on the pace and placement of long distance shooting, I'm just saying I don't stress and obsess over having my bullet holes touch.

After looking at it, I'm gonna order the 4-12 p223.  I have a walmart gift card for like 150 and free shipping sounds good to me. Thanks Jack.

4-12 is fine... I think it is what I would choose if I had to do it over again.. 

I have the Monarch 2.5-10x on my DMR and wish i went with a little more magnification. The Nikon scopes are definitely the most bank for buck scopes 12x and under. I may still pick up the fixed 3x scope they offer and throw it on my 10/22.

Alrighty, its on order. With this size scope i guess a cantilevered mount is the best bet no?

 

Now time to buy a CH and stock. Think I'm gonna go with an a2 again.

Check that, I think I'll try the moe rifle stock.

Check that, I think I'll try the moe rifle stock.

 

 

I run a PRS on my longer range 308 AR.. good stuff..

 

for the mount I run a larue mount.. it is money.. but rock solid... 

On a budget here, won't be springing for a larue that's more than the glass haha.

How's the pepr?

 

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I use the perp, and have an RRA, they are both tanks. I use the perp because it look sharper.

Would a vortex SPARC be good on a 45° mount? Or does it really need to be an rmr style .

 

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Would a vortex SPARC be good on a 45° mount? Or does it really need to be an rmr style .

 

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Either or shouldn't make a difference, you adjust the scopes based on the plane you shoot them on. I think the biggest factor is how comfortable your stock is at 45 degrees.

Either or shouldn't make a difference, you adjust the scopes based on the plane you shoot them on. I think the biggest factor is how comfortable your stock is at 45 degrees.

I didn't think it would affect hthe scope. Just wondering if the SPARC is to bulky to put on 45°

Got the scope in. Its really nice. Little bigger than I had anticipated.

 

 

We'll see how it works when I get the pepr mount.

I didn't think it would affect hthe scope. Just wondering if the SPARC is to bulky to put on 45°

 

 

I do not personally like that setup, unless there is an actual need for it...

if I am building a gun that I am going to use inside 200 primarily... then I am going to run a red dot as a primary optic.. and a magnifier if need be.. 

if its a bench gun..then its a bench gun... and I am going to stick with a magnified optic..