I have a friend, a really great guy!  He has a stainless Mini 14 with a device pinned at the end of the barrel.

He bought the rifle about 20 years ago, before all of the new laws and does not remember what the device was called

when he bought it and put it on the end of his barrel.

 

         I told him it looked like a flash hider to me and that he could be a felon in the PRNJ with such a device. I looked up

pictures on the net and saw his device labeled brake in one picture and hider in another. Please tell me which it is since

meeting BUBBA is not on his bucket list!!!

 

         I don't know how to post an image here but I would if pointed in the right direction...........Thanks!

Muzzle brake or comp has an opening thats barely larger than the bullet itself to pass through. A flash suppressor has large hole as large as the device itself. if he has a mini 14 and doesnt have a pistol grip, which is likely, and no other evil feature, then a flash suppressor is OK to have.

Muzzle brake or comp has an opening thats barely larger than the bullet itself to pass through. A flash suppressor has large hole as large as the device itself. if he has a mini 14 and doesnt have a pistol grip, which is likely, and no other evil feature, then a flash suppressor is OK to have.

So a flash suppressor is legal in the PRNJ on a Mini 14 without a pistol grip?  I know he has the factory stock and no other modifications.

Good to go on a stock mini-14...

There are many photos on the net wit ha FH that is labeled a Break due to ignorance

and / or poor terminology.

 

As stated above, if you see a flash it will generally have a large hole at the muzzle, in which

you could stick your pink finger into (hence the so called pinky test).

If the opening looks like it had a washer welded to it and a smaller hole in the center, it would be 

a break.

 

Attached photos show a very basic FH & break - there are MANY variations, but this should give

you a better idea as to the basic difference...........

as long as its a fixed stock mini14 and not one of the banned models with folding stock Ruger K-Mini-14/5 F and Mini-14/5 RF

Here it is.  https://www.dropbox.com/sh/773ixmnpw8myei3/VtfFmoYAsl

as long as its a fixed stock mini14 and not one of the banned models with folding stock Ruger K-Mini-14/5 F and Mini-14/5 RF

It has a wood stock but how can I tell if it's a K-Mini-14/5 F and Mini-14/5 RF??? I assume these are banned even with a normal stock?

They have folding stocks and it would be stamped on the gun.

 

Hes ok with the Rancher model

Thanks for the help!  I was worried there for a second.........I mean HE was worried!

ok. i got a question. probably stupid, but...whelp.....someone's gonna ask a stupid one, so it may as well be me.

 

i watch the gun shows on monday nights on sports channel(crapcast 1631). they keep running a commercial with the guy from tactv talking about the bravo company gunfighter muzzle break. one thing he says....and it's on their website too....This Compensator was not designed as a gamers comp. It was designed for tactical applications to reduce muzzle rise, flash signature, noise, and lateral pressure.....

i copy/pasted that from the site.....so....is it part of the normal function for a break to help control flash? or is that something only some like this do?

 

 also, i noted that a flash suppressor is said to be legal on a rifle such as the mini14....does it still have to be pinned/welded?

 

 ok...so it was TWO stupid questions, lolol

Okay, Now I have anther question, My whateveritis is only pinned but not welded. Is that legal???

they do not assign what is or isn't acceptable as far as weld or pin...

Link to photo in post #7 is a Flash hider

 

As previously stated, if no other evil feature, the FH is o.k.

 

By pinned  -I assume you are referring to the FH in the photo which

is a "Slip over" style used on Non-Threaded barrels.

If the barrel is not threaded, the is no reason to pin or weld on..........

As stated above, if you see a flash it will generally have a large hole at the muzzle, in which

you could stick your pink finger into (hence the so called pinky test).

If the opening looks like it had a washer welded to it and a smaller hole in the center, it would be 

a break.

 

 

What are your thoughts on the the SGM Bolt-on Muzzle Brake for the Saiga 308, Yea or Nay for NJ? see links below

 

 

http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/product_p/sgm-308-brake.htm

 

or

 

https://www.sportsmentacticalsupply.com/product/49-0310/308-Rifle-Muzzle-Brake---Target-for-Saiga-by-SGM-Tactical/

If you are looking out through bars it is a flash hider. If you are looking in it is a muzzle break.

If you are looking out through bars it is a flash hider. If you are looking in it is a muzzle break.

I see what you did there!

ok. i got a question. probably stupid, but...whelp.....someone's gonna ask a stupid one, so it may as well be me.

 

i watch the gun shows on monday nights on sports channel(crapcast 1631). they keep running a commercial with the guy from tactv talking about the bravo company gunfighter muzzle break. one thing he says....and it's on their website too....This Compensator was not designed as a gamers comp. It was designed for tactical applications to reduce muzzle rise, flash signature, noise, and lateral pressure.....

i copy/pasted that from the site.....so....is it part of the normal function for a break to help control flash? or is that something only some like this do?

 

 also, i noted that a flash suppressor is said to be legal on a rifle such as the mini14....does it still have to be pinned/welded?

 

 ok...so it was TWO stupid questions, lolol

 

First he easy answer. yes it has to be pinned otherwise you add a threaded barrel to the list of evil features. SOme might argue otherwise, but it is my opinion that although logically it either has one or the other at any given moment, the prosecutor will not care. 

 

An actual compensator cannot mitigate flash as much as a dedicated flash suppressor can. Referring to smart designs of both and not a piece of crap engineering. A flash suppressor works by doing three (or less, not all are really good designs) things to the gas that all boil down to taking energy out of it. 1) they diffuse the gas exposing more surface area of gas to the ambient air to cool it quicker. 2) the suppressor maximises the surface area of the device exposed to the gas and is thermally tied to the mass of the whole rifle so that it acts as a heat sink to cool the gas. 3) The muzzle device acts as a tuning fork to turn some of the gas's energy into sound. A well desinged version will do the preceding while directing hte gas out of the line of sight of a shooter operating the gun. 

 

 A comp when you get down to it uses the redirection of gasses to control muzzle movement. Those gasses have to go someplace relatively quickly over a very short period of time and you more or less want to turn the maximum amount of energy into motion in a favorable direction. YOu do this by either trapping the gas ina  high pressure chamber with holes acting as jets, or you let the muzzle gas strike a baffle to redirect it. A comp like the JP tank brake, or the titan compensator are VERY effective and designed for shooting games in daylight conditions. They don't care about keeping the gas out of your line of sight and any diffusing of the gas is coincidental. Then you have things like the battlecomp, which is nothing but a high pressure chamber with a whole bunch of little jets. It both redirects gas, and diffuses gas, making the muzzle blast less flashy, but still WAY brighter than say a vortex flash suppressor. A number of comps do make a nod to varying light conditions and at least try to jet the gasses out of the shooters line of sight. The BCM gunfighter brake is one of them. It uses sort of the opposite of a velocity stack as as the striking face for the baffle, diffuses the gas through long slots, and directs the gas in an upward and outward V pattern outside of the operators line of sight. IT also has some minor nods at heat sinking in the design. IT does not mitigate flash more than a battlecomp or dynacomp from the side by side tests I have seen. Is it a better comp than them? Maybe, if so not much. Are the gunfighter, battlecomp, and dynacomp all inferior to say a titan in terms of compensation? Definitely. 

 

Unfortunately it appears to be lost to time, but there used to be a video of the JP tank brake on a full auto AR pistol build being shot one handed. The fireball it produced was impressive as was the recoil control.