Just read through an article that seems to suggest a lot of problems with the new g42. I know a lot of members her are listing after it and I was wondering if any were having problems? I have to say it isn't surprising to me that glock is not responding to the writer here.

 

Is the g42 a swing and a miss?

 

http://thegunwriter.blogs.heraldtribune.com/15882/more-glock-42-problems-reported/

If in fact there are really problems with this pistol (and I always have some doubt about this internet stuff) it may be related to the fact that it is a locked breach design like the 9mm.  This may make it ammo sensitive in a 380 cal. of which most pistols are blowback.

Shall we count the posts by the Glock CoolAid drinkers?

Shall we count the posts by the Glock CoolAid drinkers?

Dan - You find me a more reliable pistol and I'll buy it.  Just too fat.  (No offense intended)

           With this 380 though they may have dropped the ball using a locked breach and the variety of ammo out there.

I'm hearing it's ammo sensitive. Seems to be a common theme among the single stack category.

i wish it was a 9

I'm hearing it's ammo sensitive. Seems to be a common theme among the single stack category.

Has nothing to do with it being single stack.  Has to do with being locked breach.

"Single stack" is this year's hot marketing term. We have snubbies, belly guns, carry revolvers, carry guns, compact guns, sub-compact guns, pocket guns, purse guns, mouse guns... wait, what? All the gun magazines and Internet sites have decided we're in horrible danger because we don't have a sub-compact single-stack 9? Better run to the store!

 

Not that I complain too much - any excuse for another permit.

We messed around with the G42 and come to the conclusion...It is not "ammo sensitive" lol...it does not like a soft trigger pull. Soft trigger pull was resulting in stove pipes, FTE 100% of the time no matter how well our grip was or what ammo was used...a nice firm trigger pull resulted in no failures BUT the flip side to that is grouping consistency. Combine a tiny ass barrel with a firm trigger pull it can/will be frustrating when your results are all over the place lol. IMO its "different" and if one can understand and learn to shoot the G42 well and control it, that will trickle upward into shooting larger guns better.

 

Glock will come out with a single stack 9...hold yer horses.

WTF is a "soft" or "firm" trigger pull? It takes what it takes to trip the striker, there is no "firm" or "soft" about it. 5.5lbs is 5.5lbs (or whatever the pull weight on the G42 is) and trigger control is trigger control.

 

Are you referring to jerking or slapping the trigger vs. a controlled press straight to the rear? If so that is a garbage argument for reliability. Is "You are pressing the trigger wrong!" going to replace "You are limp wristing!" and "You are using underpowered ammo!" As Glock's customer service response?

 

If I have to slap the trigger to get the gun to fire reliably, there is an issue.

 

Regardless, if I have to manipulate the gun in only a specific way for it to function, it is unreliable and flawed, all their claims of "Perfection" to the contrary.

 

Keep in mind I say this as a dedicated Glock user, and a Glock fan. I have 6 of their pistols, and carry one daily as an issued gun, a BUG and an off-duty piece. I have a G35 and a G22 each with 10s of thousands of rounds through them in training. I also am in charge of my agencies firearms program and chose Glock as our service weapon.

 

Anyway, I have said it before and I am saying it again: Why design a gun around a smaller cartridge first and then try to jam the larger round into the smaller frame as they did with the 17/22? Granted, .40 S&W was not around when the 17 was first created, but they saw how that worked out with unsupported chambers, KBs, WML issues, ejection problems, etc.... I just don't understand why they would set themselves up for those kinds of issues again.

We messed around with the G42 and come to the conclusion...It is not "ammo sensitive" lol...it does not like a soft trigger pull. Soft trigger pull was resulting in stove pipes, FTE 100% of the time no matter how well our grip was or what ammo was used...a nice firm trigger pull resulted in no failures BUT the flip side to that is grouping consistency. Combine a tiny ass barrel with a firm trigger pull it can/will be frustrating when your results are all over the place lol. IMO its "different" and if one can understand and learn to shoot the G42 well and control it, that will trickle upward into shooting larger guns better.

 

Glock will come out with a single stack 9...hold yer horses.

I laughed a lil bit at this one myself

Ok so I didn't use terminology you would of liked, get over yourself lol...Slowly pull the trigger and it FTE 100%...pull the trigger with a lil authority and it fires flawlessly. Again this is what we found and how the G42 reacted while messing around with it. Laugh all you want, but the gun is fine, no need to make excuses.

I don't think the gun is "fine" if it doesn't work depending on how quickly you pull the trigger.

Ok so I didn't use terminology you would of liked, get over yourself lol...Slowly pull the trigger and it FTE 100%...pull the trigger with a lil authority and it fires flawlessly. Again this is what we found and how the G42 reacted while messing around with it. Laugh all you want, but the gun is fine, no need to make excuses.

That is absolutely not "fine", under no circumstances should the functioning of a handgun be dependent on how forcefully you pull the trigger.

Now, this was an oem rental gun...not clean at all lol...will it react differently with a good cleaning? Maybe. Will it be a lot better changing some parts? Probably. All my Glocks have some aftermarket bits n pieces to make it better for me and my use.

First of all, words mean things. Even on an inter web forum. You say it, expect to be called on it.

 

Second, define "a little authority." How fast or slow you pull a trigger should have ZERO to do with how a Glock functions. More than likely, it translates to how solid or loose your grip is and how you are handling recoil, but the only observable/demonstrable factor of those two causes is how fast you are jerking the trigger.

 

Third, you are endorsing a firearm to folks that are planning on using for self defense. This isn't a new tennis racket. If what you recommend fails it could have dire consequences.

 

As stated above, what you are describing is not "fine" and I am not laughing. There are no excuses being made, the weapon is faulty and needs to be sent back to Glock.

First of all, words mean things. Even on an inter web forum. You say it, expect to be called on it.

 

Second, define "a little authority." How fast or slow you pull a trigger should have ZERO to do with how a Glock functions. More than likely, it translates to how solid or loose your grip is and how you are handling recoil, but the only observable/demonstrable factor of those two causes is how fast you are jerking the trigger.

 

Third, you are endorsing a firearm to folks that are planning on using for self defense. This isn't a new tennis racket. If what you recommend fails it could have dire consequences.

 

As stated above, what you are describing is not "fine" and I am not laughing. There are no excuses being made, the weapon is faulty and needs to be sent back to Glock.

Umm, I'm not endorsing shit. So if someone gives an option on the chevy silverado, someone goes and buys one off that option and the brakes fail, crashes it and dies, its their fault? Screw you. In the end its up to the consumer to buy whatever they feel fit for themselves for whatever their application may be. Im done with this thread, I'm in chat if you wanna discuss consequences lmao.

AND DONE

Update - Glock got back to at least one customer and stated that the barrel was damaged by the ammunition and requested payment to replace the damaged barrel.

 

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/02/23/glock-42-barrel-problems/

 

Yikes. I would be seriously unhappy.

Wouldve been funny if they told him to pull the trigger faster though lol

 

Dan - You find me a more reliable pistol and I'll buy it.  Just too fat.  (No offense intended)

           With this 380 though they may have dropped the ball using a locked breach and the variety of ammo out there.

 

I'm with you on this one Frank!  And in addition to locked breach and clean/dirty for FTE's what about what HE wrote about limp-wristing?  

 

What worries me the most about reading this is the link to the article with the story about $125 for an Austrian replacement barrel due to bad ammo!  .380 isn't known for being a "Magnum" pressure-wise, so how does a barrel self-destruct, and why would a Dealer PAY for a replacement unless he knew someone was feeding it with ultra-hot home-loads?

 

One other thing, and it's just a pet peeve of mine:  If the gun FTF's or FTE's in the strong hand, what are the chances of FLAWLESS function using the weak hand only technique that we train with every month at PPC?

 

I think I'll stick with my Colt .380 Mustang Government Model with 7 round mag +1 in the tube in Condition #2, as it feeds anything, goes BANG when it's supposed to (without any long trigger pull I might add) and functions with pocket lint just fine in either hand!  But then I'm use to SA guns and can fire them in my sleep.....

 

Go on that Hog Hunt yet?

 

Dave