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crazy Pseg bill

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Anyone else notice how crazy high the electric bills are this winter ?  We have a solar system that gives us a lower rate on our bill but its still the same as if it where July with the ac running all day. Its getting kind of nuts. 

No. My electric bill has been lower than last winter. Thanks for helping!

last month's bill was the highest we've ever seen since we moved to Jersey. Another reason to move to a warmer place ;)

JCP&L here and ours has been insane.

 

1200.00 last month and 1000.00 month before and so on

 

these f'ers been charging us the estimated costs for few months.

 

We bitched and they sent someone out to check meters and got it down to $750 this past month which is still insane. I don't get why they get away with not reading meters but instead using some insane math formula that's always wrong month after month.

 

Propane heat w/ boiler

Mine has been about average and my boiler is running all the time with the cold

Since I have oil heat, my electric bill has not been any higher.  Next time my oil tank is fill, though.......  i will hear a drum roll first

Err .. are you guys heating with electric?

 

On the east coast that seems foolish. You could probably convert your heating system to natgas or propane and STILL save money over a year or so.

My buddy got a 917 dollar bill for a 1 bedroom apt. They estimated his bill for the prior three months. The estimates aren't even close. Go online and submit your own reading in the winter months.

JCP&L here and ours has been insane.

 

1200.00 last month and 1000.00 month before and so on

 

these f'ers been charging us the estimated costs for few months.

 

We bitched and they sent someone out to check meters and got it down to $750 this past month which is still insane. I don't get why they get away with not reading meters but instead using some insane math formula that's always wrong month after month

$750.00?  Good god! what are you running ?.....I have a set plan with a energy supplier and pay .11 cents/kh and we have seen a higher bill this winter but everything including heating is electrical and I came in at $245.00 last month.

Granted I have a very humble 1200 square feet on one floor but $750.00 seems a bit much.

$750.00?  Good god! what are you running ?.....I have a set plan with a energy supplier and pay .11 cents/kh and we have seen a higher bill this winter but everything including heating is electrical and I came in at $245.00 last month.

Granted I have a very humble 1200 square feet on one floor but $750.00 seems a bit much.

2 houses on our farm

1 oil heat 1 propane

2 electric water heaters

2 fridges

2 set of washer dryers

2 TV's and components

2 PC's with modems etc..

2 microwaves

a few lights @ night

a well

 

 we did run a few extra space heaters at times when it was below freezing to keep pipes from freezing

 

Our bill is usually 3-400

 

but I think since its been extremely cold thing were working harder

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See if we had eletric heat and appliances our bill would make sense. But we have a gas fired water heater, boiler, stove ,and dryer. We have actually changed our light bulbs, set timers, and set electronics and cable boxes to sleep after an hour or so this year.  Its getting nuts. 

2 houses on our farm

1 oil heat 1 propane

2 electric water heaters

2 fridges

2 set of washer dryers

2 TV's and components

2 PC's with modems etc..

2 microwaves

a few lights @ night

a well

 

 we did run a few extra space heaters at times when it was below freezing to keep pipes from freezing

 

Our bill is usually 3-400

 

but I think since its been extremely cold thing were working harder

Never mind....you got a lot going on but still, that's quite a nut.

i have electric water heater, washer/dryer and stove...  only my heating fuel is oil..   with that said, my electric bill was approx $175 last month.  add in the average use/cost of oil from the last month (if it were a monthly bill), it would probably have been closer to $300 or $350

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We are normally under 100 bucks in the winter. Right now we are running at 250-300. That's what we normally spend in the hottest months of the year with the ac on full blast.  

We have gas for heat/hot water. So the electric portion is down in winter and up in summer (A/C). Gas the other way around. The cheapest months are May and October - not much heating or cooling.

My house is a cape thats uninsulated on the first floor,half of the upstairs is gutted ,no insulation. My elec last month was 78 my gas bill is usually around 190-200 .elec cook top big fridge

 3 cable boxes and the usual other crap with the annoying led lights. I don't feel so bad after reading this. 1400 sf

wow. My town actually negotiates rates with a supplier for the twp. I haven't seen an increase in my bill.

My house is a cape thats uninsulated on the first floor,half of the upstairs is gutted ,no insulation. My elec last month was 78 my gas bill is usually around 190-200 .elec cook top big fridge

3 cable boxes and the usual other crap with the annoying led lights. I don't feel so bad after reading this. 1400 sf

What do you keep your heat at? 40? Sounds awfully cheap considering you said you have an uninsulated first floor and the top floor is half gutted.

Anyone else notice how crazy high the electric bills are this winter ?  We have a solar system that gives us a lower rate on our bill but its still the same as if it where July with the ac running all day. Its getting kind of nuts.

 

Under obama's cap and trade plan, electric rates would have to necessarily skyrocket...

I have 1700 sq ft , temp at a steady 70 degrees . My bill just arrived and total was 170 . This includes gas and electric . I have seen an increase . I fully renovated my house and put insulation r19 on the exterior walls and r30 in attic . Was a costly investment but has been saving me during these times.

Here's another observation. The above poster said his heat is steady at 70. I did the same thing one winter and only lowered the temp 2 degrees when I went to work and my bills were less than when I used to drop the temp a lot when I was gone. Its impossible to compare year to year due to temp fluctuations but I did the same thing with my AC that year too and once again my bill was lower than when I turned the temp up when I was gone for more than an hour. They say it's more efficient to maintain the temp vs raising or lowering it when you leave and I tend to agree due to my experience yet I've read thearguments against and it sounds like they might be correct too. Any opinions?

Prob depends on your type of system. I have gas radiator heat and found it is much cheaper to maintain one set temp the entire winter.

I have gas baseboard heating, and it seems to me to work better at a steady temperature. When I turned it down and then up when I went to work it was slightly cheaper but u felt the system was worker harder to reheat the house .

My PSEG bill is about the same as last year. I have a question for those who's bill's jumped up are you completely on PSEG or a separate electric supplier? My place is a 2 floor apt. at about 1200 square ft. We have the normal amount of electronic electric alliances and an electric drier. 

 Its impossible to compare year to year due to temp fluctuations

 

It's not impossible.  In fact it's not even hard.  Utilizing heating degree days you can easily compare year to year fluctuations.  The hardest part is keeping all the bills together in one place in my disorganized hovel.

See if we had eletric heat and appliances our bill would make sense. But we have a gas fired water heater, boiler, stove ,and dryer. We have actually changed our light bulbs, set timers, and set electronics and cable boxes to sleep after an hour or so this year.  Its getting nuts. 

 

Have you considered checking the meter?  Something is not making sense.  Sometimes meters go out of calibration...  Or you have some severely parasitic loads.  Or someone is stealing electric from you.

 

 

 

Or you've got grow lights. Countdown to DEA raid in 3... 2... 1...

What do you keep your heat at? 40? Sounds awfully cheap considering you said you have an uninsulated first floor and the top floor is half gutted.

I have my Tstat at 64 and it maintains 65. I also have to layers of old siding which is helping .Cast iron radiators also help because they hold the heat.

  Ordering materials for a dormer this week. Insulating the entire house second floor first then basically a room at a time as i gut and hang new drywall.

Should be a tad more efficient when i'm done.

One other idea to put out there. It's possible that when they did your last reading a number was read or entered wrong. If the bill is way off of normal for you I would call your provider.

 

 

 

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Have you considered checking the meter? Something is not making sense. Sometimes meters go out of calibration... Or you have some severely parasitic loads. Or someone is stealing electric from you.

 

 

 

Or you've got grow lights. Countdown to DEA raid in 3... 2... 1...

Lol. We are going to call Pseg and complain and see what they do. Something is def up. The only new thing we have is the gun safe and I have a hard time believing the stick heater we hooked up in it is drawing 100 a month extra in power.

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