Just read this on the

Firearms blog. Looks like they never attached the serial number in the correct fashion. I know there were quite a few floating around here at one time. Heads up!

 

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/03/30/plumcrazy-polymer-lowers-illegal-letter-batfe/

Wow. I wonder if a recall will be made.

Hypothetically speaking, even if a recall is made, are you under threat of criminal liability by owning one?

Hypothetically speaking, even if a recall is made, are you under threat of criminal liability by owning one?

 

It's a messy area. ARe you ate risk of going to jail, I doubt it. Are you at risk of having to mount a defense? Probably. 

 

I know a batch of saiga-12s went out that did not have long enough barrels. They actually got sold through. BATF did not go kicking down doors of people over it. My guess is they won't over this either. I mean, the thing was illegal to manufacture and transfer technically, but nobody ever made an administrative ruling about it until now. You can own firearms without a serial number, so I'm not sure what illegal act you are engaging in as long as there is no transfer. A recall with amatched number repalcement would probably be vaild, as would permitting owners to destroy their lowers. 

Interesting.

 

The SN on my Ruger P95 is set up the same way: metal plate attached to polymer frame.

So how easily removed = too easy?

There's more information behind this story than is let on. I won't comment on it yet as I'll wait for someone closer to the source to either say something publicly or give me the go-ahead to comment.

I heard from a fairly reliable source that this has come from an investor that lost a bunch of money and that this is all crap. So lets see if something really happens!

 

Plum Crazy has been around for a few years so why now?

Ugh. Why so much drama lately.

Ugh. Why so much drama lately.

 

I suspect that if it is true, a lot of major players will be out of business. I am lead to believe that that blog was in retaliation for something and the letter is almost a year old and there has been no ATF action regarding other manufacturers since.

Illegal because they can remove the serial number plate in one minute with only a hammer and a screwdriver.

 

I can remove most serial numbers in only one minute with just a bastard file - poor logic.

Illegal because they can remove the serial number plate in one minute with only a hammer and a screwdriver.

 

I can remove most serial numbers in only one minute with just a bastard file - poor logic.

 

Maybe you can, maybe you can't.   When a number is stamped on steel, apparently you do forensics on the steel even if the number was removed and tell something about it from the metal deformations. With plastics, not so much, so apparently the ATF wants the receiver to be non-functional if the serial number is removed.

Maybe you can, maybe you can't. When a number is stamped on steel, apparently you do forensics on the steel even if the number was removed and tell something about it from the metal deformations. With plastics, not so much, so apparently the ATF wants the receiver to be non-functional if the serial number is removed.

In that case, you can drill through a standard AR lower SN and it will still fire.

The article has since been updated with clarification from the owner of New Frontier Armory which provides the critical information that was missing from the originally published article.

Ugh. Why so much drama lately.

 

IMO I think the answer to that is easy. There are lots of RKBA folks out there trying to stir stuff up against the current administration. I think it is a sign that RKBA is getting better at activism, but a lot of our risk is looking forward at potential pitfalls and hidden attacks and misuse, so you get something like this that can become very speculative very fast, especialy on the heels of the ares armor thing.