Say someone owns an air rifle (not the eVil silent kind) that was legally purchased, but they no longer have the COE. Would that ever present any legal issues?

 

 

 

 

 

JK. You don't ever have to keep any paperwork.

Lol

Do you mean if it was purchased in PA and you lost the receipt? ;-)

 

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As far as I know its not a requirement to keep COE's.

Thanks guys. That's what I thought but figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

Will pass along.

I swear I saw sonewhere on the form or read somewhere to keep it. I'm not saying i don't believe anyone. I'm just saying I think I saw it on something. I'll rack my brain

Ok if you go to the bottom of the coe it says

 

White copy is to be retained by the transferor pursuant to NJSA 2C:58-3b.

Yellow copy is to be retained by the receiver.

If internet form, make and sign two copies.

 

 

Now I'm sure we could debate what retain means. Does it mean each person gets a copy or do you actually have to hold onto it for x period of time.

Ok if you go to the bottom of the coe it says

 

White copy is to be retained by the transferor pursuant to NJSA 2C:58-3b.

Yellow copy is to be retained by the receiver.

If internet form, make and sign two copies.

 

 

Now I'm sure we could debate what retain means. Does it mean each person gets a copy or do you actually have to hold onto it for x period of time.

Just found it on my form too. Not sure what to make out of it...

Say someone owns an air rifle (not the eVil silent kind) that was legally purchased, but they no longer have the COE. Would that ever present any legal issues?

 

Only if you used it in the commission of a felony.  Then the super-secret BB Gun Police would track-down the original buyer and prosecute HIM for Bank Robbery!

 

Is it just me or why is it that folks with close to 1K posts don't already KNOW answers to the simplest of questions?

 

Put simply, drive to Free America.  Drop-in a Walmart.  Buy a DOZEN pellet rifles off the shelf.  Drive back across the border with the pellet rifles treating them as firearms (locked in trunk, unloaded).  What makes this pellet rifle of yours any different?

Does the air rifle have a serial number?

Even if it's not required to keep copies of the COE after you transfer a firearm, I personally think that it's a VERY smart thing to do.  God forbid a crime is committed with a firearm that you purchased from someone, or sold to someone.  That COE is legal proof of the period of time that you were in possession of that firearm.  For someone who only purchases firearms new from an FFL, and doesn't sell them, this isn't an issue.  However, I purchase almost all of my firearms used from other people, and normally sell most of them privately to someone.  I keep all of my COEs and pistol permits in one of those small fireproof safes you can buy from Lowes for $40.  I know that the odds of something like this happening are very VERY slim, but how hard is it to hold onto and keep a couple pieces of paper organized?

Only if you used it in the commission of a felony.  Then the super-secret BB Gun Police would track-down the original buyer and prosecute HIM for Bank Robbery!

 

Is it just me or why is it that folks with close to 1K posts don't already KNOW answers to the simplest of questions?

 

Put simply, drive to Free America.  Drop-in a Walmart.  Buy a DOZEN pellet rifles off the shelf.  Drive back across the border with the pellet rifles treating them as firearms (locked in trunk, unloaded).  What makes this pellet rifle of yours any different?

 

-Post count is irrelevant vis a vis subjects that the person posting hasn't had any prior interest in. I could have 200k posts and still never read a single thing about black powder rifles. 

 

-I did have a fair idea what the right answer was, but I've never had to deal with this small corner of NJ's FUBAR'd gun regulations before. If it were my bb gun I probably wouldn't have even thought about it or would at least have found out years ago. But it isn't and the dude whose it is asked me, so I said "I'll ask some people who'll definitely know" rather than possibly giving him the wrong info. 

 

-In any event, I'm glad I did. If you look at the posts above yours, there are people here who still don't feel like they know. So if it helps them, even better.

I lost that COE in a horrific boating accident lol...

A good excuse would be that the COE was lost in a flood from Hurricane Sandy.

O-K, point taken.  But I guess that means no one on this thread read(s) Vlad's posts/threads explaining the NJ laws (here on this forum).  Pity, since he did such a wonderful job.

 

Have a nice rest of the week!