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No limit on pistol permits

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I was looking for this information last week and could not find it.

 

In the event your town is limiting the number of your pistol permits, show them this, direct from the NJSP.

 

Item 7 on this pdf.

 

http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/072913_firearms_app_procedure.pdf

 

 


FIREARMS APPLICANT PROCEDURE
PLEASE READ CAREFULLY!!
(Improperly prepared applications will not be acce
pted or processed)
All Applicants
:
1. Type or Print all information clearly, on all for
ms.
2. All addresses must be complete with house number
, street (P.O. Box) town, state,
and zip code.
3. All forms must be signed. It is requested you c
omplete this in the presence of the
law enforcement officer where you are submitting th
e application to.
4. Return all completed and unused forms.
5. Height shall be in feet and inches
6. Indicate Race with either Asian, Black, American
Indian or White.
7. If you are applying for a Handgun Purchase Permit
, there is no limit on the
quantity of permits you may apply for.

Right, says no limit on what you can apply for...does it mean you'll get em all tho?

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<--- Just got more than I can possibly use in 180 days without an exemption.

<--- Just got more than I can possibly use in 180 days without an exemption.

Whats the point of that though? Other than "because I can" which is a bogus answer lol.

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The original letter that went to ALL municipalities stated that they can not limit the quantity issued.

 

Paul - I went looking for the letter last week and I couldn't find it, this was the best I could come up with.  I know you had it but I had no way of getting it quickly and it didn't seem to "live" on the forum.

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Whats the point of that though? Other than "because I can" which is a bogus answer lol.

 

Because they were being douchey about something else and I wanted to see whether they would follow the law or not.

I have tried to explain this to the lady who hands out the applications and she continues to tell me 3 is the limit and that is per the chief. I asked for it in writing but she kept saying its per the chief and it's at his discretion. I would love to have a copy of the letter from the state police on letterhead.

You can always file for an exemption after you get your permits.

We're talkin w/o an exemption. Applying for "way more than I can possibly use" just to see if they follow the law just sounds like a waste a $...the municipality already gets enough my taxes, not gonna give em more...even if it was $2 extra...save it for when .22 becomes $2 per bullet lmao

From what I understand there is no law saying a permit must be extended if requested -- so you can get 6 permits but can only use 3 in the alloted timeframe

 

It's up to the CLEO if he wants to grant the extension

 

I guess it would work with the OGAM exemption... maybe a few times

Paul - I went looking for the letter last week and I couldn't find it, this was the best I could come up with.  I know you had it but I had no way of getting it quickly and it didn't seem to "live" on the forum.

 

I have attached the letter to the CLEO's. The part you are looking for is at the bottom of page 5.NJSP Letter to Chiefs of Police 033010.pdf

 

From what I understand there is no law saying a permit must be extended if requested -- so you can get 6 permits but can only use 3 in the alloted timeframe

 

It's up to the CLEO if he wants to grant the extension

 

I guess it would work with the OGAM exemption... maybe a few times

 

You got it right in your second sentence. There is no law that says they "must" extend - it is entirely at the CLEO's discretion.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

Don't forget one can trade in a handgun purchased the next day for a different one using a new permit. I always wanted to do this with a customer but couldn't find one with balls.

 

Sent from an undisclosed location.

 

 

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Don't forget one can trade in a handgun purchased the next day for a different one using a new permit. I always wanted to do this with a customer but couldn't find one with balls.

 

Explain please?  I need more details about this.

Explain please?  I need more details about this.

 

2C:58-2a(7)(d):

A dealer shall not knowingly deliver more than one handgun to any person within any 30-day period. This limitation shall not apply to any transaction where the person has purchased a handgun from a licensed retail dealer and has returned that handgun to the dealer in exchange for another handgun within 30 days of the original transaction, provided the retail dealer reports the exchange transaction to the superintendent.

If memory serves me Newton only allows three permits unless you fill out an additional form. I remember it being more or less automatic, but I've never tried it.

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If memory serves me Newton only allows three permits unless you fill out an additional form. I remember it being more or less automatic, but I've never tried it.

 

Then they're in violation of the law.

Then they're in violation of the law.

This should be the worst thing we have to put up with.

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This should be the worst thing we have to put up with.

 

Fight each and every infringing of each and every law.

Didn't want to start a new thread on somewhat similar topic, so will post it here. Had a "funny" conversation recently in my PD

 

Storyline: got 3 permits in February, failed to use any until the end of March, used 2 now, but the remaining one expires before my OGAM ends after the most recent handgun purchase. So I went to my PD to ask if and how I can extend it. The dialogue was something like that:

 

- Oh, yes, sure, it expires on the 21st... Yes, of course you can extend, just drop it here ... let's say... on the 19th or the 20th...

- Umm... can I drop it NOW? I can't use it anyway...

- No, now it is too early, come on the 19th.

- Ooops, I think I MIGHT probably not be here that week at all because of job-related trips... Can I just drop it 2 weeks later, let's say, on June 2nd?

- NO, it will be too late already.

- Oookay, thanks, I *got* it...

 

The problem is that I didn't really get it :))))) You can't drop it too early, you can't drop it too late and we are really talking not even weeks, but days here. I know it's entirely up to the Chief, but that sounds at least quite illogical for me... (or maybe I should stop looking for logic in local firearm regulations, LOL)

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The local PD's have been instructed by the NJSP to no longer extend expired permits, regardless of what they did previously.  You must submit your permit before it expires for "renewal".  Regardless of that, renewal adds 90 days from the date the chief (or whoever) signs it.  So there's a possibility you will not even get 180 days on an extended permit if it's signed "too early".

 

The whole system is a bureaucratic wet dream designed to make the lawful jump through hoops.

My town will issue as many permits as you ask for. But the lady at the window told me straight up not to bother getting more than three at a time. She said if you do so your going to have to get extensions on the remaining permits over the first three. And it was better not to piss off the chief, since she sees me once every three months since OGAM went into effect. So I just get three at a time. He has the option of not extending any. I would prefer he just signs my extension, instead of saying "this eff-ing guy again!?!?" "Denied!". Now that they do most of the process online its not that big of a deal to apply anyway.

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My town will issue as many permits as you ask for. But the lady at the window told me straight up not to bother getting more than three at a time. She said if you do so your going to have to get extensions on the remaining permits over the first three. And it was better not to piss off the chief, since she sees me once every three months since OGAM went into effect. So I just get three at a time. He has the option of not extending any. I would prefer he just signs my extension, instead of saying "this eff-ing guy again!?!?" "Denied!". Now that they do most of the process online its not that big of a deal to apply anyway.

 

The only denial that they can mete out is on an extension.  There has to be a "legitimate" reason for denial.

The only denial that they can mete out is on an extension. There has to be a "legitimate" reason for denial.

This is exactly what I was conveying, denial of extension.

 

If I was denied a permit upon request for no good reason, my lawyer's phone would be ringing the second after I received it.

The chief isn't even involved in an extension. I just walk to the window and the guy or gal in the office takes them and types the new date and hands them back.

 

Easy peasy.

The chief isn't even involved in an extension. I just walk to the window and the guy or gal in the office takes them and types the new date and hands them back.

 

Easy peasy.

Your town is better than mine. He personally signs them where I'm from.

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