May 20, 201412 yr Everything I've read on it says that you need to make sure your stock is in collapsed position otherwise you'll break something. Well, how the fuck are we lowly NJ citizens supposed to clear a rifle using this method if we can't collapse our pinned stock?
May 20, 201412 yr Very carefully. J/K Yeah that's a problem that unfortunately we're going to have to deal with. I've used the mortaring technique on 2x occasions during classes when people had stuck spent casings (both Herters steel) and didn't have a problem where something broke as a result. To be honest, the extractor will most likely either slip or break off a piece of the casing before you break the stock. That is, unless you're really having to smash that thing into the ground.
May 20, 201412 yr If there was only a version of the AR that used a fixed stock .. oh wait, there is. I personally have no idea why anyone in NJ would uses a pinned "collapsible" stock. You can get fixed stocks in a few lengths from "entry" to A2 or longer. Personally, I've mortared rounds out of my rifle in the middle of matches on occasion, and I was quite glad of the ACE solid A2 stock.
May 20, 201412 yr Like Vlad that's why I have an Ace stock! Good for splitting zombie heads as well, Frank.
May 21, 201412 yr If there was only a version of the AR that used a fixed stock .. oh wait, there is. I personally have no idea why anyone in NJ would uses a pinned "collapsible" stock. You can get fixed stocks in a few lengths from "entry" to A2 or longer. Personally, I've mortared rounds out of my rifle in the middle of matches on occasion, and I was quite glad of the ACE solid A2 stock. I agree with you on pinned telescoping stocks. They, along with 15/30 magazines and having to have a muzzle break that looks like a flash surpressor are all for "the look" IMO. I'm familiar with the technique of mortaring however I've never had to do it myself or seen anyone have to do it. I've been shooting the AR platform since 1968 and have seen literally millions of rounds go down range out of them but never saw anyone have to mortar to unstuck a bolt. Someone must be doing something wrong out there.
May 21, 201412 yr I've had to do it twice under match pressure and once under practice. The practice one and one of the matches came from a batch of my reloaded ammo when I was rushing and I was slightly rolling the case mouth on a few rounds so they wouldn't full chamber but shoved them in hard enough that the charging handle didn't have enough leverage. Those required a relatively light tap to the stock while yanking the charging handle. One was a PMC round that went "pfft" and locked up the gun solid. That one require a couple of serious whacks via the mortaring method. Upon later examination of the troubled round, the case was lacking a flash hole. The primer went off and pushed half out of the case and slightly mucked up the works until enough effort was applied.
May 21, 201412 yr I agree with you on pinned telescoping stocks. They, along with 15/30 magazines and having to have a muzzle break that looks like a flash surpressor are all for "the look" IMO.I will disagree about the 15/30 mags. The extra length makes all manipulations with magazines easier. They increase stability in a few different shooting positions. They also fit better in most pouches and make retrieving them much easier. I also don't see see pinned telescoping stocks as being a bad thing either. A quality stock on a quality mil-spec receiver extension should be good to go as long as your technique is good when mortaring. I think a SOPMOD or VLTOR type stock with a sloping cheek weld is superior to a standard A1 or A2. And since I plan on shooting a whole lot more than mortaring I think it is a valid trade-off. And as for the muzzle device, I don't care what they look like as long as they work for their stated purpose. I understand that they aren't necessary on a 5.56 rifle, but I can tell when I am shooting a rifle without one.
May 21, 201412 yr I think a SOPMOD or VLTOR type stock with a sloping cheek weld is superior to a standard A1 or A2. I go back and forth on that. I think some of that depends on the shape of your head, length of neck and stance. For my particular geometry I find that the sloping ones feel better when I dry fire, but are slower when I actually shoot. I may need to setup two lowers with the same length stocks but one sloped and one not, and run some timed drills side by side at different ranges. On the other hand terminator prototypes like Jerry M. seem to be doing just fine with the ACE stock.
May 21, 201412 yr Jerry M ain't running armor. Do you really think it would matter if he was? Jerry seems to have no issues kickin' butt with ____ piece of gear is probably the least valid evidence for judging the usefulness of said item that fills in the blank. Jerry is an inhuman shooting machine who brings sandwiches for the whole squad because it's just common courtesy. Or so I hear.
May 21, 201412 yr Jerry M ain't running armor. No, but neither am I And yes Jerry could kick my ass with a muzzleloader, bring him up is obviously a joke.
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