Its already 5th time this week I heard about someone or their company either moving or planning to move to Texas (or somewhere around). Not for the 2A reasons but citing lower labor costs, lower cost of operating etc.  These are are large technology companies.

 

I am sure this has been going on for some time. Last time I was in Austin, the place was littered with tech companies and folks where a conversation about firearms felt little awkward.

 

NRA (and others) may have given up on NJ as lost cause, but I think the anti-2A disease is spreading slowly but surely.  Would be interesting to see how Austin, Dallas and few other places look like in 10 years from 2A standpoint.

Its already 5th time this week I heard about someone or their company either moving or planning to move to Texas (or somewhere around). Not for the 2A reasons but citing lower labor costs, lower cost of operating etc.  These are are large technology companies.

 

I am sure this has been going on for some time. Last time I was in Austin, the place was littered with tech companies and folks where a conversation about firearms felt little awkward.

 

NRA (and others) may have given up on NJ as lost cause, but I think the anti-2A decease is spreading slowly but surely.  Would be interesting to see how Austin, Dallas and few other places look like in 10 years from 2A standpoint.

 

It's Texas, it will look the same.  Don't mess with Texas.

It's Texas, it will look the same.  Don't mess with Texas.

Precisely the attitude that will assure that the 2A cause will be in trouble. "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" to paraphrase a smarter gent than myself. Austin is INCREDIBLY liberal. Texas is already not the best state for 2A although to anyone from this area, it would not appear so. I agree with the OP that Texas could fall. Not today or tomorrow, but in the relatively near future.

 

C

Precisely the attitude that will assure that the 2A cause will be in trouble. "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" to paraphrase a smarter gent than myself. Austin is INCREDIBLY liberal. Texas is already not the best state for 2A although to anyone from this area, it would not appear so. I agree with the OP that Texas could fall. Not today or tomorrow, but in the relatively near future.

 

C

I ageee that eternal vigilance is a constantly required. Austin has always been very liberal. I lived in Texas for a decade. Firearms are a way of life in Texas. I think almost everyone I knew (or their immediate family/parents) had firearms. NOT having one seemed to be more the exception than the rule.

 

If I had to bet as to the state with the highest percentage of gun owners and highest number of firearms owned per person, Texas would be one of my top picks. I'm also willing to bet that Texas has a higher concentration of NRA members than most other states.

 

"Don't mess with Texas" was an anti-littering campaign back in the 90's. It garnered some ngative media attention b/c people outside of Texas and unfamilair with what the slogan was thought Texan's thought so high of themselves. In a way they are. Most people are proud to be from Texas. While the antis may try to chip away at 2A rignts in Texas, they won't have any easy time of it.

 

Yes, Texans do have to remain constantly vigilant to protect their rights and their way of life, as do we all. I ageee with you on that. But your assertation that the motto/mantra/attitude of "Don't Mess With Texas" will be "precisely the attitude that will assure the 2A cause will be in trouble" is in fact the opposite. It is why Texans' will continue to resist infringements on their rights and will continue to enjoy and exercise rights that people in NJ can (currently) only envy and wish they had.

 

If Texas falls we are all pretty much done for.

Precisely the attitude that will assure that the 2A cause will be in trouble. "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" to paraphrase a smarter gent than myself. Austin is INCREDIBLY liberal. Texas is already not the best state for 2A although to anyone from this area, it would not appear so. I agree with the OP that Texas could fall. Not today or tomorrow, but in the relatively near future.

 

 

Likewise, I worry about Florida. 

I ageee that eternal vigilance is a constantly required. Austin has always been very liberal. I lived in Texas for a decade. Firearms are a way of life in Texas. I think almost everyone I knew (or their immediate family/parents) had firearms. NOT having one seemed to be more the exception than the rule.

 

If I had to bet as to the state with the highest percentage of gun owners and highest number of firearms owned per person, Texas would be one of my top picks. I'm also willing to bet that Texas has a higher concentration of NRA members than most other states.

 

"Don't mess with Texas" was an anti-littering campaign back in the 90's. It garnered some ngative media attention b/c people outside of Texas and unfamilair with what the slogan was thought Texan's thought so high of themselves. In a way they are. Most people are proud to be from Texas. While the antis may try to chip away at 2A rignts in Texas, they won't have any easy time of it.

 

Yes, Texans do have to remain constantly vigilant to protect their rights and their way of life, as do we all. I ageee with you on that. But your assertation that the motto/mantra/attitude of "Don't Mess With Texas" will be "precisely the attitude that will assure the 2A cause will be in trouble" is in fact the opposite. It is why Texans' will continue to resist infringements on their rights and will continue to enjoy and exercise rights that people in NJ can (currently) only envy and wish they had.

 

If Texas falls we are all pretty much done for.

Your previous comment came across as you having a "Laissez-Faire" type of attitude about 2A rights in Texas. If I misinterpreted it, I apologize. Thank you for the clarification.

 

C

Who would have thought ten years ago that Colorado would have sweeping anti-gun laws passed and signed into law. Well it happened. Washington State has one of the oldest shall issue concealed carry laws on the books (1961) could also be next with the I-594 initiative.

 

Texas is becoming a blue state

 

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/21/Blue-State-Blues-Fleeing-Democrats-Will-Turn-Texas-Blue

 

"Much of the discussion about how Democrats are going to "turn Texas blue" revolves around demographic changes, especially immigration reform. Allowing millions of illegal aliens to find a pathway to citizenship will create millions of new Democratic voters. In the meantime, Republican opposition to that plan is said to be pushing Latino voters away. All Democrats need to do is boost their turnout, and the GOP's Alamo will fall.

Yet there is another demographic change that is bound to have an effect on Texas: the rapid influx of refugees from blue states.

The Manhattan Institute notes that Texas is the number-one destination for California's émigré population, for example. It is popular among migrants from other blue states as well, owing to its warm climate, job opportunities, and lack of a state income tax. Over time, that is changing Texas's political culture."

 

 but I think the anti-2A disease is spreading slowly but surely.

funny thing? nearly everyone tells me i'm paranoid when i say that this can/will/is happening.

Even here in Kentucky we aren't "immune" ...we had politicians calling for the following....

 

Three Day Waiting Period

 

Require background checks for private firearms sales  (Background investigation and a fee (gun tax) for the private transfer of firearms between family and friends.)

Licensing of persons to possess firearms and assault weapons

The registration of firearms and assault weapons

In addition to licensing and registration, the bill would allow local governments and Kentucky State Police to regulate firearms. (Legal in one county and illegal in the next county)

Register with the state police lawfully possessed handguns and certain semi-automatic rifles

The logging of firearms and ammunition sales

Register any magazine that holds more than seven rounds.
 

Your previous comment came across as you having a "Laissez-Faire" type of attitude about 2A rights in Texas. If I misinterpreted it, I apologize. Thank you for the clarification.

 

C

No apology necessary. I can see your concern as every day it seems there is another push against the 2A and freedom in general. Not just here in the bleeding heart, leftist mecca of the North East but everywhere. When push comes to shove though Texas (and everyone else) should push back HARD.

 

Does "Laissez-Faire" mean keep your hands off my guns and mind your own business? If so, that's me!

No apology necessary. I can see your concern as every day it seems there is another push against the 2A and freedom in general. Not just here in the bleeding heart, leftist mecca of the North East but everywhere. When push comes to shove though Texas (and everyone else) should push back HARD.

 

Does "Laissez-Faire" mean keep your hands off my guns and mind your own business? If so, that's me!

 

I had a Chamber of Commerce dinner tonight, and several of the legislators in my area were in attendance (including 2 of the 3 from the 24th district). I was able to speak with them personally and thank them face to face.

 

Trust me, they are all in our corner on this. We need to support them as much as we can....

Much of the population moving to these states is coming with their brains washed or legal immigrants from countries with little to no firearm culture ( no offence). Something (positively) needs to be done about highlighting positive culture of firearms.

 

Some guys in the middle of ranch walking around firearms and thinking 2A will not fall is wishful thinking at best.

 

I know many feel differently about open carry, but things being out of sight makes them out of mind. Its easy for politicians to make laws against thing that are out of mind. Would responsible open carry ease the new population into 2A culture better than other ways ?

Its already 5th time this week I heard about someone or their company either moving or planning to move to Texas (or somewhere around). Not for the 2A reasons but citing lower labor costs, lower cost of operating etc.  These are are large technology companies.

 

I am sure this has been going on for some time. Last time I was in Austin, the place was littered with tech companies and folks where a conversation about firearms felt little awkward.

 

NRA (and others) may have given up on NJ as lost cause, but I think the anti-2A disease is spreading slowly but surely.  Would be interesting to see how Austin, Dallas and few other places look like in 10 years from 2A standpoint.

I read that at least a few of the large Texas cities are already quite liberal. I believe Austin was one of them. You know what that means for gun rights.

 

The entire country is becoming more liberal, in fact. Compound that with the influx of illegals.

 

When I lived in New Hampshire the state was staunchly conservative. Its voters went D in 5 of the last 6 presidential elections. Vermont had voted R in all but one presidential election between 1856 and 1988, inclusive!! Since 1992 it has been 100% democrat.

 

Back in 1960 Nixon campaigned in 49 states. The term "battleground state" was meaningless. Fast forward to 2012 and only a handful of states have competitive elections. Some are solid R, but many more electoral votes are solid D. If a Republican does not get elected in 2016 and do miracles it's possible we may never again see a Republican president.

I'm in Dallas now for work. Sure there are a lot more R around(CEO of this place has a rifle on the wall of his office). But the city of Dallas is pretty liberal (50%) and it's not going down.