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Can Constable carry in NJ without carry permit?

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Can A constable carry a firearm per Law Enforcement Officers Safety act.

:dontknow: Maybe your answer is in the attached FAQ.

 

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Not that it matters, since it would seem LEOSA would be in effect for you, but I was simply curious... Is there such a LE position as "constable" in the State of NJ?  Or are you a PA "constable?" I've heard of them in PA.

 

Thx.

Only constables I've seen in NJ have had batons and OC, never seen one with a firearm. Not sure if they can carry a firearm if qualified, just my observation. I think NYC constables have firearms.

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Appreciate it PK90 that's what im trying to use but it seems like prosecuters trying to give me a hard time in nj.

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In NJ a Constable has statuatory powers of arrest police officers actually derive there powers from the constable along with probation officers and county investigators. In fact a Constable can charge any jailer for not taking in his prisoner. They are county officers which are only a step down from the sheriff.  

IF you are a PA Constable, then Yes you can carry in NJ. But you better look into it yourself.

 

Other states, it will depend on your statutory authority and training and how it jives with LEOSA.

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yes the position is actually classified under civil service as an unclassified position.

We had Specials in our town first. Constables were like crossing guards way back when. Then that classification was taken from the crossing guards and they were just crossing guards. Later Specials and Constables were added back in and were considered Officers of the Court and could also be used in various ways. I started out as a Special. I carried, wore a uniform, went on patrols, worked survelliance and more. If qualified, they could carry. They worked at the county level in the courts as well as locally. Trivia: It is believed a Constable, which had their position long ago even in England. (You often saw Constables in the old US and English films looking like Bobbies like in the Charlie Chaplin movies)... The trivia is, today we call Police Officers a slang known as COPS... COPS, was originally believed to be short for, "Constables On Patrol".... Hence, COPS.... :)

Interesting thread.

A Constable in NJ is A appointed job. The appointment comes from A Councilman in the town you live in. No votes no nominations, You can become A constable just by being friends with someone in City Council.

There is no training required.

From the conversion I had with A relative that is A Captain with NJSP. A Constable must pass all backgrounds checks for A CCW and have A CCW to carry.

 

The right to arrest is the same as any citizen has in NJ, It is a Citizens arrest.

 

I would sincerely hope that if you have A legal situation with carrying without A permit that you have retained good legal council.

And that you are not looking for legal opinions on these threads.

I have seen one that drives around Newark, seemed suspicious to me... 

how it jives with LEOSA.

 

The word is JIBE

 

 

 

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Trivia: It is believed a Constable, which had their position long ago even in England. You often saw Constables in the old US and English films looking like Bobbies like in the Charlie Chaplin movies... The trivia is, today we call Police Officers a slang known as COPS... COPS, was originally believed to be short for, "Constables On Patrol".... Hence, COPS.... :)

 

British Police officers are still Constables. Each Police force is called the county Constabulary. e.g. Suffolk Constabulary, Gloucestershire Constabulary, etc and many of them still wear the traditional helmet shaped like a tit.

British Police officers are still Constables. Each Police force is called the county Constabulary. e.g. Suffolk Constabulary, Gloucestershire Constabulary, etc and many of them still wear the traditional helmet shaped like a tit.

 

The one with which I'm most familiar is the "Royal Ulster Constabulary" (R.U.C).... :shok:

 

Fear not... me/mine are not Sinn Féin, IRA  or anywhere near it.   :)

that's so weird >>> I've never heard of "constables" in NJ. gonna read up some more on it

Actually there are very few Cities, Counties that utilize Constables, In NJ anymore. Actually with proper followup and searching you will find that what used to be considered A Constable,(Many years ago) Are what is commonly known now as Officers of the court.

With that position being held 99% of the time by retired LEO's.

Sheriffs Officers are tasked in most of NJ with doing evictions, Handing Supeonas etc.   Long ago thats what Constables did.

Now in PA for instance there are still Constables and they do have A large amount of Authority, and also can carry. As they have been thru approiate training.

 

Just think. If there still were constables in NJ, Then there would be A large amount of folks allowed to carry. Thats if they still existed like years ago.

And we all are aware of the chances that will happen.

I have worked with a lot of them doing evictions and such and I haven't seen one carry. Not to say that couldn't go through the necessary steps but just because you are constable doesn't mean you can carry.

Any that I worked with had police as backup if necessary.

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