When did Almeida write that? He has acknowledged to me personally that his case might have been construed as, and achieved nothing more than strengthening JN. I've been hard on him and on that point but there's no doubt he's an honorable man. 

 

He brings up a point, however, about numbers. He cites 1.7 million FID holders in the state. Others say 1.2 or 1.0 million.

 

Folks nobody in this state gives a crap about our gun rights (and their own) except for gun owners themselves. This is not WV or PENN or AZ. We have a negative gun culture in NJ. The average person, D and R, thinks guns are horrible. I know plenty of folks who vote Republican who would be aghast at CC in this state.

 

We can wait until this Hudson bill percolates through, the challenges, the literal shit-storm of lies and scare tactics by the national and local media that is going to occur. That's a 100% certainty. This bill will go down as another characterization of the current climate as the equivalent of Nazism. The reaction will be INSANE. Only 3 states don't have shall-issue CC and only 4 others limit it in some way, but wait till this passes.

 

That is why the only way to send a real message is to begin un-electing vulnerable state assembly-critters and senate-critters. 

 

I don't think many of you need convincing that NRA, NJARPC, etc. are more or less tits on a bull when it comes to NJ gun rights.

 

1) Start a protest by not renewing your NRA membership and include a note in the SASE telling them why. You'll still have all your certifications, certificates, signet rings, $2 complimentary pocket knives, and funny three-cornered hats. They don't give a crap about us. Why give them money to convince the Utah legislature to allow howitzers at girl scout picnics on Sundays in church parking lots?

 

2) Stop listening to our pro-2A organizations NOW. Nothing but failure from them. Stop the silly whiny emails to Loretta Weinberg. News flash: She's not reading them.

 

3) Plan to tap into those 1.0, 1.2, 1.7 whatever million voters by using them to replace two or three vulnerable legislators with pro-2A people. I've set the numbers out in excruciating detail on numerous occasions.

 

4) Buy stock in adult diaper manufacturing companies. Nothing scares these worthless parasitic vermin turds more than losing their cushy jobs.

"Folks nobody in this state gives a crap about our gun rights (and their own) except for gun owners themselves. This is not WV or PENN or AZ. We have a negative gun culture in NJ. The average person, D and R, thinks guns are horrible. I know plenty of folks who vote Republican who would be aghast at CC in this state."

 

True! 

That culture is changing. New ranges? Who would have thought. Women n taking a huge market share. National Reciprocity bill. NH going constitutional..... etc.

Changing gun culture in NJ starts with each one of us talking to our friends and associates. Changing the prejudices that we are hillbillies or gangbangers.

 

And SUPPORT your 2a groups! Only in this state is everybody an expert. If all these tribes could come together and coordinate, we could actually storm the castle!

When did Almeida write that? He has acknowledged to me personally that his case might have been construed as, and achieved nothing more than strengthening JN. I've been hard on him and on that point but there's no doubt he's an honorable man. 

 

 

1) Start a protest by not renewing your NRA membership and include a note in the SASE telling them why. You'll still have all your certifications, certificates, signet rings, $2 complimentary pocket knives, and funny three-cornered hats. They don't give a crap about us. Why give them money to convince the Utah legislature to allow howitzers at girl scout picnics on Sundays in church parking lots?

 

2) Stop listening to our pro-2A organizations NOW. Nothing but failure from them. Stop the silly whiny emails to Loretta Weinberg. News flash: She's not reading them.

 

3) Plan to tap into those 1.0, 1.2, 1.7 whatever million voters by using them to replace two or three vulnerable legislators with pro-2A people. I've set the numbers out in excruciating detail on numerous occasions.

 

4) Buy stock in adult diaper manufacturing companies. Nothing scares these worthless parasitic vermin turds more than losing their cushy jobs.

 

Honorable people don't take money under false pretenses.

 

So we should abandon all the 2A groups, but then, somehow, formulate and execute a strategy to influence the votes of a million people or more.  I'm been somewhat disillusioned with "orgs" for the past couple years, but this doesn't make any sense. 

Zeke, you are touching interesting point. I work in corporate sales in NYC/NJ area. 5 - 7 years ago engineers that I was working with where interested in playing golf, tasting expensive wine and sugar. Nowadays at least 50% of hobby related conversations are related to guns, hunting, mud races and other physicaly challenging outdoor activities. It may be the age of the people but I also see much more liberals so it looks like IT society is splitting and becoming much less uniform.

 

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Honorable people don't take money under false pretenses.

 

So we should abandon all the 2A groups, but then, somehow, formulate and execute a strategy to influence the votes of a million people or more. I'm been somewhat disillusioned with "orgs" for the past couple years, but this doesn't make any sense.

This is his talking point/strategy since I've been here. Cmon guys follow me, we are going streaking! It's gonna be great

https://youtu.be/20g3QIUnOgY

Zeke, you are touching interesting point. I work in corporate sales in NYC/NJ area. 5 - 7 years ago engineers that I was working with where interested in playing golf, tasting expensive wine and sugar. Nowadays at least 50% of hobby related conversations are related to guns, hunting, mud races and other physicaly challenging outdoor activities. It may be the age of the people but I also see much more liberals so it looks like IT society is splitting and becoming much less uniform.

 

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Nj/ Ny make it hard for purchase but not impossible. I think that's a planned deterrent.

Obama was the best salesman ever!

That culture is changing. New ranges? Who would have thought. Women n taking a huge market share. National Reciprocity bill. NH going constitutional..... etc.

Changing gun culture in NJ starts with each one of us talking to our friends and associates. Changing the prejudices that we are hillbillies or gangbangers.

 

 

 

Zeke, you are touching interesting point. I work in corporate sales in NYC/NJ area. 5 - 7 years ago engineers that I was working with where interested in playing golf, tasting expensive wine and sugar. Nowadays at least 50% of hobby related conversations are related to guns, hunting, mud races and other physicaly challenging outdoor activities. It may be the age of the people but I also see much more liberals so it looks like IT society is splitting and becoming much less uniform.

 

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I have to agree, growing the number of people engaged in shooting is the most important long term goal, IMO.  And we are watching it happen.  (Thanks in part to some people engaged in this kind of outreach, and in part because shooting is fun in and of itself)

Nj/ Ny make it hard for purchase but not impossible. I think that's a planned deterrent.

Obama was the best salesman ever!

That's right, my guy's call it Obama package: ar15+handgun.

Somehow I think a democrat Assembly, Senate and Gov may have a different outlook on our gun culture than some folk here. This and only this is what they see: http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.anjrpc.org/resource/resmgr/ds-email/gun_control_list_03-22-13.pdf   

Somehow I think a democrat Assembly, Senate and Gov may have a different outlook on our gun culture than some folk here. This and only this is what they see: http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.anjrpc.org/resource/resmgr/ds-email/gun_control_list_03-22-13.pdf

Vote bro.

Organize

Fight

Teach

We are American Citizens regardless of our ZipCode.

Somehow I think a democrat Assembly, Senate and Gov may have a different outlook on our gun culture than some folk here. This and only this is what they see: http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.anjrpc.org/resource/resmgr/ds-email/gun_control_list_03-22-13.pdf

They see a campaign donation check from Bloomberg.