If a stripped lower is treated as a handgun, do you need a handgun permit in addition to the eligibility form to transfer a built ar?

A stripped lower is not treated as a handgun unless its deemed a handgun by the manufacturer.

Nope, just fill out a NJ COE form

Huh, I thought stripped lowers were subject to funky laws since they can be buit into pistols. Nice to be proven wrong.

Isn't a stripped lower considered "other"?

I don't know why, but a stripped lower in NJ is a rifle! In PA it is a possible handgun build and they won't sell it to you! Silly at best!

AFAIK, in NJ a stripped lower is a rifle unless you use a pistol permit when purchasing and designate it a pistol.

AFAIK, in NJ a stripped lower is a rifle unless you use a pistol permit when purchasing and designate it a pistol.

Bingo

 

Sent from an undisclosed location.

 

 

I don't know why, but a stripped lower in NJ is a rifle! In PA it is a possible handgun build and they won't sell it to you! Silly at best!

It's federal law that does not allow you to buy stripped lowers out of state, you also need to be 21 to buy them. If it's not a long gun under federal law, you can only buy it in the state you live in.

I'm not sure of the technicalities of what happens if you "intend" to make it anything other than a BTAF legal long gun, but I got a stripped lower online from out of state (PSA) and the FFL transfer went just like a regular long gun

IMO, if you are still a NJ resident when you build the firearm, it will have to be a rifle, as you did not use a handgun permit to acquire it. Once you are no longer a NJ resident, you can build it into a pistol, as NJ laws do not apply. However, it will have to be never built as a rifle first.

 

Sent from an undisclosed location via Tapatalk.

 

 

At no point was there an intention, documented or otherwise, for a pistol build. So the transfer should be pretty straightforward.

It's federal law that does not allow you to buy stripped lowers out of state, you also need to be 21 to buy them. If it's not a long gun under federal law, you can only buy it in the state you live in.

Thank you for clearing that up for me. How can they be ordered online then? Logically I would guess it is because they would have to ship to an FFL in the PRNJ and then by

doing the transfer with only your FPID card, you can only legally build a rifle with it. Am I correct in my assumption?

Federal law considers stripped lowers as "other" - not a long gun, not a handgun (but are still a firearm). So under federal law it could be built into either a handgun or long gun. NJ does not have an "other" classification so it must be classified as either a long gun or a handgun, and purchased with the proper paperwork accordingly.