Is it legal to have an AR lower with an adjustable stock shipped to a NJ FFL?  I don't have an upper and will  pin the stock before I buy the upper.

Some places will let you ship, but the FFL wont turn it over to you without it being compliant. You would have to pay them to pin it. Semi autos with detachable mags like ARs are limited to one "evil feature." That's gonna be the pistol grip. Since the receiver itself is considered the firearm, you can't (at least not successfully I don't think) argue that even though it's got 2 evil features, it's not a firearm, as you would be able to when ordering a noncompliant upper intending to do compliance work to it.

I sold quite a few adjustable stock AR lowers in NJ. It is only a receiver, and not a "SAW" until an upper is under your control.

 

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I have a few Magpul fixed carbine stocks on my builds, I like the look and feel, and they install very easily with a single screw.  If you installed a compliant stock like the Magpul, independent of whether or not you wanted to keep the $5 USGI M4 stock that came with the lower, you can take the receiver home without doing any other work to it.

 

The Magpul stock has been good for NJ gun owners because there's no question about whether you're compliant or not and you don't have to resort to a rifle stock and buffer system.  The only down side is that you have to buy it instead of using the one that came with the gun.

I sold quite a few adjustable stock AR lowers in NJ. It is only a receiver, and not a "SAW" until an upper is under your control. Sent from an undisclosed location.

:/ I don't doubt you know more than me on the ins and outs of gun sale legalities since you're an FFL, but can I get a 3rd person's opinion on this? The way it's written, the receiver IS the firearm, regardless of it being assembled or not. Since it already has stuff on it (being that it's a complete lower), and the parts on it already make it non-compliant (having 2 evil features), I would think it's already illegal, regardless of being in possession of the completed upper receiver or not. By that argument, I can own a completed lower with the ability to turn the selector to "giggle mode", as long as I don't ever come in possession of an upper to complete the gun.

 

Side note, I just ordered a few M&P9 15 round mags off your site. I can't wait for them to come in so I can play with them XD

Response seems to vary by FFL. I had this question a few years ago and two out of three FFLs I talked to had no problem transferring me a lower with an adjustable stock (I guess 3 of 4 if you include PK90), but one insisted it was illegal.

 

I'm curious as to the legalities of transporting a lower, aside from exempted travel.

 

OfcrFek, while I see the point you're trying to make, I don't think it's the same since full-auto parts are federally regulated separately from the lower.

Yes I order non compliant guns online to my ffl & they do the compliance work before I can pick it up

I dont see how a lower with an adjustable stock is illegal. What if im putting a bolt or single shot upper on it. Its not illegal with that on it even with the adjustable stock Thats like having a lower that says safe/semi/auto. Thats not illegal. As long as it doesnt have the trigger group to make it auto.

I dont see how a lower with an adjustable stock is illegal. What if im putting a bolt or single shot upper on it. Its not illegal with that on it even with the adjustable stock Thats like having a lower that says safe/semi/auto. Thats not illegal. As long as it doesnt have the trigger group to make it auto.

Excellent point golf

It is not illegal.

 

A NJ "Semi-automatic Assault Weapon" could be a "named" firearm, or a "substantially identical", or "under control" parts to build one, per the law. Per the Admin Code, it must be a rifle, handgun, or shotgun. A receiver is non of those.

 

People should follow the law and stop making up more.

 

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Basically as long as its not specifically listed on "the list "by name. Buy it and have your ffl make it legal and sort it out. Is that sorta correct?

No reason why the dealer shouldn't transfer it to you as is.

 

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