Does anyone have any concrete numbers on how often concealed carry persons stop crimes or prevent shootings? I know this is a nebulous number at best. It is sort of like saying how often do antilock brakes and traction control prevent accidents since the almost accident is never reported. I ask because an nice calm anti person was respectfully asking about this with an open mind. So, I would like to provide some info along with a source if possible.

Not quite what you are looking for, but....

 

 

 

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If you are an NRA member you should get the American Hunter or American Rifleman magazine. The armed citizen section is one of my favorites in the magazine. A lot of good stories on how armed citizens get the bad guys.

If you are an NRA member you should get the American Hunter or American Rifleman magazine. The armed citizen section is one of my favorites in the magazine. A lot of good stories on how armed citizens get the bad guys.

 

In all fairness the person asked that I not present something that came from the NRA, I can respect that.  I would likely do the same if someone wanted to use CNBC or Mother Jones as their source.

Check out the CDC study ordered by Obama. They came out saying defensive firearm use equaled or exceeded the rate at which criminals used firearms.

John Lott's "More guns, less crime"

This might not be what you were asking, but it does seem relevant that one person armed with a pistol somehow managed to stop 2 heavily armed perps from attacking 150 people.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Culwell_Center_attack

CDC Gun Research Backfires on Obama

 

http://www.gunsandammo.com/politics/cdc-gun-research-backfires-on-obama/

 

The article is a summary of the CDC report. A link to the report itself is in the article.

 

2. Defensive uses of guns are common:

“Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year…in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.”

 

3. Mass shootings and accidental firearm deaths account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths, and both are declining:

“The number of public mass shootings of the type that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School accounted for a very small fraction of all firearm-related deaths. Since 1983 there have been 78 events in which 4 or more individuals were killed by a single perpetrator in 1 day in the United States, resulting in 547 victims and 476 injured persons.” The report also notes, “Unintentional firearm-related deaths have steadily declined during the past century. The number of unintentional deaths due to firearm-related incidents accounted for less than 1 percent of all unintentional fatalities in 2010.”

 

4. “Interventions” (i.e, gun control) such as background checks, so-called assault rifle bans and gun-free zones produce “mixed” results:

“Whether gun restrictions reduce firearm-related violence is an unresolved issue.” The report could not conclude whether “passage of right-to-carry laws decrease or increase violence crime.

There is something here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use

 

But if the person asks not to use NRA, you're not going to convince him.  This sort of stories seldom get into the major news, precisely because they are "non-events".  You have to go through the thousands of the local papers.

That was good stuff but from 2013.... He ignored all of it just like his minions and would rather keep lying.

 

 

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If you wish to conduct your own research/develop your own stats:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/dgu

It's hard to separate citizens using firearms in defense of their home and ccw. Both would be legal activities. There are also thousands of incidents where mere display of a firearm by a citizen makes the bad guy stop what he's doing and no shot is fired. If that's the case, these incidents get little, if any, publicity. There is no category in the Uniform Crime Reports for crime prevented by armed citizen. If there was this would be easy. There are also undoubtedly thousands of incidents not reported at all.

 

Armed Citizen is compiled from news reports in media resources. They most likely compile hundreds and edit it down to the small number they publish. I know it would be hard for a liberal to understand but the NRA doesn't make these up. They can doubt what the NRA publishes but the source is always listed.

Here come da Judge! He tells it like it is...

 

http://fxn.ws/1Uat6q7

He's my favorite.

Judge Nap is awesome, every time I listen to him it makes so much sense- or to use the more popular catch phrase common sense- I cant for the life of me understand how his typical reasoning isnt what is actually (should be) happening.

Judge Jeanine too. If only people would pay attention to them.

You can look up similar lists. They're all over the place, I believe.

 

One of the arguments really demented anti-gunners use is that "if you have a gun the criminal will take it from you and kill you with it." 

 

I'm sure this happens occasionally, but I can't remember last time I read such a report. Given that the NY Times, etc. would devote an entire month to such a story, I feel safe in saying it happens less than once in every 500 good guy/bad guy encounters.

 

The other bugaboo is "they'll steal your guns and use them in crimes." Well what would you expect a burglar to do? "Gee what a nice Sig. I think I'll join a range, sign up for First Pistol, and send in my NJARPC dues."

 

Do you think a criminal has ever taken cash or jewelry during a robbery/burglary and used the proceeds to purchase a gun on the street? Naaaaaa. By that logic we should ban jewelry and cash, and prosecute homeowner victims as accessories to crimes.

 

Anyone have any stats on this?

 

CDC Gun Research Backfires on Obama

 

http://www.gunsandammo.com/politics/cdc-gun-research-backfires-on-obama/

 

The article is a summary of the CDC report. A link to the report itself is in the article.

 

Thanks for a WONDERFUL  site to base comments on, I have bookmarked both the Guns and Ammo link AND the CDC report itself. I have been politely trying to make our case with a few folk who are anti violence and who have been a little obstinate. This won't change their minds (you need an OPEN mind to be able to reconsider a position), but at least I can cite a source for my arguments better with this.

NRA info, like the Armed Citizen, are fine for "anecdotal" points, but anti's are not going to buy into it, even if only due to it's source.

 

Kudos to you, sir . 

Judge Nap is awesome, every time I listen to him it makes so much sense- or to use the more popular catch phrase common sense- I cant for the life of me understand how his typical reasoning isnt what is actually (should be) happening.

This is my first time learning of him, guess I have been lost under a rock. 

Boy does he make sense!!!

The tyrants do not care about real statistics. If they did, we wouldn't most likely have these problems.

 

 

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I think you'll find most answers to this question and others on this site---however, here's the direct link to your question with footnotes, etc:

 

http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-control-myths/guns-and-crime-prevention/