Really have to hand it to some companies. They will sell you one over the counter but will not ship to nj/

Go figure.Concerning these so called silenced pellet rifles, couldnt you just whack off the silenced end ?

There are a lot of really questionable nj laws that I'd love to see challenge but I would 100% not bring one of those integrally suppressed rifles here

 

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Even the NJSP has ruled that the Gamo Whisper and "substantially identical" models as illegal.

http://www.guns.com/2013/09/12/new-jersey-adds-certain-air-rifles-assault-weapons-list/

F them. Wtf. Nazi new jermany. What a joke. These lawmakers are a disgrace. This is unrealistic.

Never heard of anyone busted for that. All air guns in low calibers are quiet. They could say the same thing about rifles in general, which make far less noise than revolvers or pistols at least in .22lr. Or for that matter powderless .22s, which can still kill you (a lot more effectively than a .22 pellet) but make zero noise in a rifle and less than a fully charged round in a handgun.

 

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

Never heard of anyone busted for that. All air guns in low calibers are quiet. 

 

Yeah but do you want to be the first?

Yeah but do you want to be the first?

I've suggested 20 people dressed in Sunday best walking up to a NJSP barracks and asking to be arrested for possessing a single .22 hollow point. Alert the press. Would I do it? Civil disobedience has worked in the past. Would I actually do it?

 

I'm wracking my brain to think of a situation where some ball buster would be in a position to snag me on my air rifle (which I purchased in NJ from a reputable dealer BTW). Are wardens even out during squirrel season?

I've suggested 20 people dressed in Sunday best walking up to a NJSP barracks and asking to be arrested for possessing a single .22 hollow point. Alert the press. Would I do it? Civil disobedience has worked in the past. Would I actually do it?

 

I'm wracking my brain to think of a situation where some ball buster would be in a position to snag me on my air rifle (which I purchased in NJ from a reputable dealer BTW). Are wardens even out during squirrel season?

Yes they are. Usually dressed like another hunter, and not like a warden. Until they bust you for some simple infraction.

Yes they are. Usually dressed like another hunter, and not like a warden. Until they bust you for some simple infraction.

Actually you're right. First time ever hunting in NJ, 1991, they stopped my car on the way out of Wittingham to see if guns were properly cased. I was using the cardboard box I picked it up in the month before at Simon Peter. I knew nothing about NJ law. From what I know now I'd refuse the search. Second the gun was unloaded and in the trunk. I think that's sufficient. 

 

What a shame we have to baby talk these subjects, like naughty children.

Actually you're right. First time ever hunting in NJ, 1991, they stopped my car on the way out of Wittingham to see if guns were properly cased. I was using the cardboard box I picked it up in the month before at Simon Peter. I knew nothing about NJ law. From what I know now I'd refuse the search. Second the gun was unloaded and in the trunk. I think that's sufficient.

 

What a shame we have to baby talk these subjects, like naughty children.

I know state law says unloaded, and doesn't specifically say cased, if you have a FPID card. But in the game code if you're engaged in the act of hunting, or participating in a hunt, the gun must be cased and unloaded. They will actually give you a ticket, for leaning it against your vehicle uncased. Hunting isn't a right like gun ownership, when you sign your hunting license you're officially stating in ink, that you read all the rules. And are willing to follow them all.

I know state law says unloaded, and doesn't specifically say cased, if you have a FPID card. But in the game code if you're engaged in the act of hunting, or participating in a hunt, the gun must be cased and unloaded. They will actually give you a ticket, for leaning it against your vehicle uncased. Hunting isn't a right like gun ownership, when you sign your hunting license you're officially stating in ink, that you read all the rules. And are willing to follow them all.

With all due respect -- I still consider myself inexperienced -- I don't know of any agency that can legally force you to pull your car over to search you for no reason. I understand the code thing though. Interesting. Kind of like joining the army?

With all due respect -- I still consider myself inexperienced -- I don't know of any agency that can legally force you to pull your car over to search you for no reason. I understand the code thing though. Interesting. Kind of like joining the army?

That they can't do, unless they suspect you of a crime, and they have some evidence or probable cause. Conservation officer's carry the full weight of law enforcement, as well as the ability to enforce the game codes. Basically state troopers, that can write you a civil hunting related violation.

That they can't do, unless they suspect you of a crime, and they have some evidence or probable cause. Conservation officer's carry the full weight of law enforcement, as well as the ability to enforce the game codes. Basically state troopers, that can write you a civil hunting related violation.

If your on state property I believe they can in fact serch you and your vehicle without probable cause. Just like they can search your tackle box without consent. I'm not 100% on this but I'm pretty sure.

If your on state property I believe they can in fact serch you and your vehicle without probable cause. Just like they can search your tackle box without consent. I'm not 100% on this but I'm pretty sure.

I wouldn't doubt that.