So I put together a rifle with spare parts, rundown as follows;

 

Mind you, these are scratched, dinged, worn parts except internals like lpk and bcg....

 

colt a2 upper

fnmi 20" barrel

anderson lower

dd lpk

alg act

colt bcg 

colt a2 stock

kac ras rails

 

 

My plan is simple, I'm going to abuse it, neglect, never clean it, freeze it, you name it.  I will of course inspect to make sure it's safe to fire however, it's battle worn look personified already and figured what the heck.  I'd like to see how far she'll go

 

I will only use steel through the rifle unless all I have is brass. 

 

I plan on documenting it here so feel free to chime in, offer suggestions etc etc

 

Currently at 400 rounds of wolf steel case 55gr fmj

Farther than you think. The AK fanboys I'm sure will be watching and commenting.

to add, I use mobil 1 for lube and will only lube at 1k round intervals

 

 

I'll write up a spreadsheet so let's have some fun

Send it to Henderson Defense, AKA, Battlefield Las Vegas. They will beat the shit out of it for you!!

Send it to Henderson Defense, AKA, Battlefield Las Vegas. They will beat the shit out of it for you!!

to add, I use mobil 1 for lube and will only lube at 1k round intervals

 

 

I'll write up a spreadsheet so let's have some fun

 

Come, now. Surely urinating down the bore is enough.

Send it to Henderson Defense, AKA, Battlefield Las Vegas. They will beat the shit out of it for you!!

lol...

 

All kidding aside, there is an epic thread about high round count durability and such, on arfcom (as you probably know).

I know that thread well...

 

lol...

 

All kidding aside, there is an epic thread about high round count durability and such, on arfcom (as you probably know).

Is urine high enough in ammonia to dissolve copper fouling? I'd think not.

 

I will ask what the pool is for how many round before the chamber throat is gone shooting steel case?

 

I'm willing to bet that the chamber goes before the rifling and both outlast the gas carrier.

 

Who else has seen good ar15 hardware failures?

sounds like a solid rifle to do this test with

 

how much steel cased 223 are you planning on shooting?  will this be primarily with wolf ammo?

while I don't shoot wolf.. I rarely if ever clean my ARs.. I occasionally douse them with oil that then mixes into a nice film of oily carbon sludge.. 

I have on very rare occasions cleaned them.. but those cleanings are so infrequent I am not sure the last time.. both 5.56 ARs run 100% every time, the 308 on the other hand needs to be kept somewhat clean... not to ruin the surprise, but I expect your results to be anti climactic.. 

Frequent pics along with notes, appreciate it. 

I'm with you Vlad, I expect it to be anticlimatic as well but should be fun

sounds like a solid rifle to do this test with

 

how much steel cased 223 are you planning on shooting?  will this be primarily with wolf ammo?

wolf or tula, whichever is cheaper at the time I buy. 

Is urine high enough in ammonia to dissolve copper fouling? I'd think not.

 

I will ask what the pool is for how many round before the chamber throat is gone shooting steel case?

 

I'm willing to bet that the chamber goes before the rifling and both outlast the gas carrier.

 

Who else has seen good ar15 hardware failures?

I was thinking just hot water...lol

 

not sure which will go first as I had a cheap dissy I did this to a long time ago and the barrel started key holing before the throat area had any issues.  the barrel was unlined but I'll tell you what, that dissy was made with spare parts, joe bobs lpk, and cheap stuff and I fronze, left it in mud, dirt, never cleaned except hosing it down and she ran.  I regret that one, she was a fking top!

 

anyway, figured it's time again and thought we all might enjoy it

Steel case FTW!

Is urine high enough in ammonia to dissolve copper fouling? I'd think not.

 

Nope. It was just a tongue-in-cheek joke. Besides, everyone knows it's a cleaning method better suited for a Mosin, anyway. Much more historically accurate.

Some guy who runs a podcast on FB (Firearms Radio, I think?) did something similar w/ an AR. Only lubed it every 1k rounds. Thing lasted impressively long before a malfunction. Only difference was he was using brass cased ammo.

 

Edit: Apparently it was Ballistic Radio that did it.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/12/15/15000-rounds-counting-ar-15-torture-testing-now-sand/

The question I have is why?

 

This is a test lots of people have done and there isn't much to gain from doing it. If all you want is a rifle you can neglect, that's fine, but just squirt some oil in it now and then and you have a range toy that will last longer.

PSA has tula 62gr steel cased for $199.99/1000 shipped.

Don't forget the Filthy 14. That rifle was impressive, and showed that the AR will run a LONG time with no cleaning, and just a little lube from time to time.

The question I have is why?

 

This is a test lots of people have done and there isn't much to gain from doing it. If all you want is a rifle you can neglect, that's fine, but just squirt some oil in it now and then and you have a range toy that will last longer.

it's just for fun, no reason why just pure fun

PSA has tula 62gr steel cased for $199.99/1000 shipped.

i bought some wolf but thats cheap, will need to jump on this

i bought some wolf but thats cheap, will need to jump on this

http://palmettostatearmory.com/tula-223-remington-62gr-hp-steel-cased-ammunition-1000rds-ta223623-case.html

update

 

1200 rounds of wolf 55gr fmj

froze it prior to last outing in walk in freezer

 

Saturday will dump some sand in the action while shooting

 

been kind of cold to shoot

ouch...  hope none of that sand gets into the chamber... 

 

will this be similar to the AKOU (AK operators union; youtube channel) sand torture test?

Lube that bitch, and it will be ok!