Can someone please verify that what I "think" is correct is in fact correct?  

 

I am selling a handgun, in state, and privately.  I plan on...

 

1.  Checking the buyer's FID and check against Driver's License for matching purposes.

2.  Both fill out Certificate of Eligibility form.  Give copy to buyer.

3.  Both fill out buyer's handgun permit.  Blue copy to seller (me), Pink to buyer, White to State Police (Data Reduction Unit in West Trenton), Yellow copy to buyer's Police Dept. or whoever the issuing authority is.

4.  Complete the sale.

 

Am I missing anything?  Any tips/suggestions?  Should I insist on copying buyer's license/FID?  Copy everything?

 

Thanks.

No need for buyer to have FPID if they possess a Permit to Purchase (P2P) good idea to check DL. Certificate of eligibility is only used for long gun sales. Seller is responsible for completing and distributing the P2P.

 

Good idea to also issue a detailed Bill of Sale - not required - just a CYA step.

 

Don't make things more complicated than they are. Search the laws yourself rather then relying on the Internet.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

No need for buyer to have FPID if they possess a Permit to Purchase (P2P) good idea to check DL. Certificate of eligibility is only used for long gun sales. Seller is responsible for completing and distributing the P2P.

 

Good idea to also issue a detailed Bill of Sale - not required - just a CYA step.

 

Don't make things more complicated than they are. Search the laws yourself rather then relying on the Internet.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

 

Thanks Pizza Bob.   I actually talked to my Police Dept. and as best I could recall thought I had it right.  I wasn't sure about the CE form being needed for handguns.  Good tip about the bill of sale.  I am selling a long gun today as a matter of fact and making up a Bill of Sale right after this reply (BTW - I'm just filling out the CE, checking DL, giving copy to buyer, and providing Bill of Sale).

Section 2C:58-3 - Purchase of firearms.

 

http://law.justia.com/codes/new-jersey/2015/title-2c/section-2c-58-3/

 

a. Permit to purchase a handgun. No person shall sell, give, transfer, assign or otherwise dispose of, nor receive, purchase, or otherwise acquire a handgun unless the purchaser, assignee, donee, receiver or holder is licensed as a dealer under this chapter or has first secured a permit to purchase a handgun as provided by this section.

 

b.Firearms purchaser identification card. No person shall sell, give, transfer, assign or otherwise dispose of nor receive, purchase or otherwise acquire an antique cannon or a rifle or shotgun, other than an antique rifle or shotgun, unless the purchaser, assignee, donee, receiver or holder is licensed as a dealer under this chapter or possesses a valid firearms purchaser identification card, and first exhibits said card to the seller, donor, transferor or assignor, and unless the purchaser, assignee, donee, receiver or holder signs a written certification, on a form prescribed by the superintendent, which shall indicate that he presently complies with the requirements of subsection c. of this section and shall contain his name, address and firearms purchaser identification card number or dealer's registration number. The said certification shall be retained by the seller, as provided in paragraph (4) of subsection a. of N.J.S.2C:58-2, or, in the case of a person who is not a dealer, it may be filed with the chief of police of the municipality in which he resides or with the superintendent.

 

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h.Form of permit; quadruplicate; disposition of copies. The permit shall be in the form prescribed by the superintendent and shall be issued to the applicant in quadruplicate. Prior to the time he receives the handgun from the seller, the applicant shall deliver to the seller the permit in quadruplicate and the seller shall complete all of the information required on the form. Within five days of the date of the sale, the seller shall forward the original copy to the superintendent and the second copy to the chief of police of the municipality in which the purchaser resides, except that in a municipality having no chief of police, such copy shall be forwarded to the superintendent. The third copy shall then be returned to the purchaser with the pistol or revolver and the fourth copy shall be kept by the seller as a permanent record.

 

i.Restriction on number of firearms person may purchase. Only one handgun shall be purchased or delivered on each permit and no more than one handgun shall be purchased within any 30-day period, but this limitation shall not apply to:

 

.....

 

A person shall not be restricted as to the number of rifles or shotguns he may purchase, provided he possesses a valid firearms purchaser identification card and provided further that he signs the certification required in subsection b. of this section for each transaction.

 

Section 2C:58-3 - Purchase of firearms.

 

http://law.justia.com/codes/new-jersey/2015/title-2c/section-2c-58-3/

 

a. Permit to purchase a handgun. No person shall sell, give, transfer, assign or otherwise dispose of, nor receive, purchase, or otherwise acquire a handgun unless the purchaser, assignee, donee, receiver or holder is licensed as a dealer under this chapter or has first secured a permit to purchase a handgun as provided by this section.

 

b.Firearms purchaser identification card. No person shall sell, give, transfer, assign or otherwise dispose of nor receive, purchase or otherwise acquire an antique cannon or a rifle or shotgun, other than an antique rifle or shotgun, unless the purchaser, assignee, donee, receiver or holder is licensed as a dealer under this chapter or possesses a valid firearms purchaser identification card, and first exhibits said card to the seller, donor, transferor or assignor, and unless the purchaser, assignee, donee, receiver or holder signs a written certification, on a form prescribed by the superintendent, which shall indicate that he presently complies with the requirements of subsection c. of this section and shall contain his name, address and firearms purchaser identification card number or dealer's registration number. The said certification shall be retained by the seller, as provided in paragraph (4) of subsection a. of N.J.S.2C:58-2, or, in the case of a person who is not a dealer, it may be filed with the chief of police of the municipality in which he resides or with the superintendent.

 

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h.Form of permit; quadruplicate; disposition of copies. The permit shall be in the form prescribed by the superintendent and shall be issued to the applicant in quadruplicate. Prior to the time he receives the handgun from the seller, the applicant shall deliver to the seller the permit in quadruplicate and the seller shall complete all of the information required on the form. Within five days of the date of the sale, the seller shall forward the original copy to the superintendent and the second copy to the chief of police of the municipality in which the purchaser resides, except that in a municipality having no chief of police, such copy shall be forwarded to the superintendent. The third copy shall then be returned to the purchaser with the pistol or revolver and the fourth copy shall be kept by the seller as a permanent record.

 

i.Restriction on number of firearms person may purchase. Only one handgun shall be purchased or delivered on each permit and no more than one handgun shall be purchased within any 30-day period, but this limitation shall not apply to:

 

.....

 

A person shall not be restricted as to the number of rifles or shotguns he may purchase, provided he possesses a valid firearms purchaser identification card and provided further that he signs the certification required in subsection b. of this section for each transaction.

 

 

Love this forum!  Great information, thanks!

h.Form of permit; quadruplicate; disposition of copies. The permit shall be in the form prescribed by the superintendent and shall be issued to the applicant in quadruplicate. Prior to the time he receives the handgun from the seller, the applicant shall deliver to the seller the permit in quadruplicate and the seller shall complete all of the information required on the form. Within five days of the date of the sale, the seller shall forward the original copy to the superintendent and the second copy to the chief of police of the municipality in which the purchaser resides, except that in a municipality having no chief of police, such copy shall be forwarded to the superintendent. The third copy shall then be returned to the purchaser with the pistol or revolver and the fourth copy shall be kept by the seller as a permanent record.

Just take note of this. You the seller are the one who's responsible to send the buyer's permit copies to the correct recipients.

Just take note of this. You the seller are the one who's responsible to send the buyer's permit copies to the correct recipients.

Gotcha, thanks 45Doll.

btw all the instructions are on permit where to send what etc

btw all the instructions are on permit where to send what etc

 

Thanks Nickc.

Thanks Nickc.

please don't confuse me for Nickjc.

please don't confuse me for Nickjc.

 

 

Lol.  My bad, sorry for the confusion and sorrow...

is it me or is it just a little too wierd that there are two similar questions about private sales of both rifles and pistols from two DIFFERENT USER that have less than 20,posts each....

 

what are the statistical odds of that?

 

Funny I was thinking the same thing.  Michael B behind the keyboard?

Prolly not him per se but someone affiliated with that movement is my thought...but who knows.....

 

I posted something in another thread and people thought I was being paranoid.  Perhaps, but who knows.  

"Internet Phishing", never a season, nor a daily limit.

"Internet Phishing", never a season, nor a daily limit.

 

So, you're accusing me of "internet phishing" because of a coincidence?  Nice.