Anyone heard of this?  Apparently it's out of Englewood NJ and takes a different angle on 2nd amendment rights citing gun regulations rooted in slavery.  Wonder if SCOTUS will grant the writ of certiorari and actually hear the case? 

Never heard. A quick google found this-

http://www.englewoodnjnews.com/amicus-curiae-briefs-needed-in-second-amendment-firearm-case-stephens-vs-jerejian

He's representing himself, so wish him the best of luck.

 

Here's his video on the case.

https://youtu.be/TZt9HzFg9ig

 

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It has been docketed with SCOTUS  http://www.englewoodnjnews.com/second-amendment-case-titled-marc-stephens-v-jerejian-docketed-with-the-united-states-supreme-court

Did the NJ attorney bother to reply?

 

"Attorney General of New Jersey has until January 12, 2017 to file an answer."

In reference to the video, I want to know what the justification for denial was, elaborating on "threat to public safety". Does Stephens have a disability of some type that he put in his application?

 

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Judge Jerejian denied Marc Stephens application for a firearm license due to “Public Safety Concerns” claiming that Marc Stephens may “take the law into his own hands”.

Did the NJ attorney bother to reply?

 

"Attorney General of New Jersey has until January 12, 2017 to file an answer."

And say what? "This is ridiculous we do not discriminate when turning our subjects into victims" ?

And say what? "This is ridiculous we do not discriminate when turning our subjects into victims" ?

 

:-)  Probably...  Seems to me between arguments like this (totally different approach bringing discrimination into the mix), national reciprocity (hopefully passed soon), and a REAL SCOTUS once the new Pres gets to confirm his pick(s), states like NJ, CA, HI, and MD will lose this battle finally!   At least it's cause for optimism that we can force the loony politicians entrenched in these states to truly recognize the constitution...  We'll see...

Did the NJ attorney bother to reply?

 

"Attorney General of New Jersey has until January 12, 2017 to file an answer."

 

Jan 10 2017 Waiver of right of respondents Judge Honorable Edward A. Jerejian and John Jay Hoffman to respond filed.

 

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docketfiles/16-7165.htm

Can some one translate this to English?

 

Waiver of right of respondents Judge Honorable Edward A. Jerejian and John Jay Hoffman to respond filed.

What b.s...  

Did the NJ attorney bother to reply?

 

"Attorney General of New Jersey has until January 12, 2017 to file an answer."

It is passed that.

 

 

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Why did he need to do any of that to transfer guns he owned?  What does justifiable need have to do with the FPID and P2P process?  Was he also applying for carry at the same time?

Can some one translate this to English?

 

Waiver of right of respondents Judge Honorable Edward A. Jerejian and John Jay Hoffman to respond filed.

 

Legalese sucks.

 

 

It would seem that Judge Honorable Edward A. Jerejian and John Jay Hoffman feel that the appeal of the lower courts decision will not be heard by SCOTUS so they are not going to waste their time responding in opposition to it.  A response on their part is optional.

 

They either did not respond in the 30 days or filed a response that they will not respond.

Why did he need to do any of that to transfer guns he owned? What does justifiable need have to do with the FPID and P2P process? Was he also applying for carry at the same time?

Based on the vid it appears carry.

Based on the vid it appears carry.

 

One part of the VID mentioned FPID--which I guess is a precondition for carry in NJ.  Although it shouldn't be. 

One part of the VID mentioned FPID--which I guess is a precondition for carry in NJ. Although it shouldn't be.

Fpid is the precondition for P2P

I'm gonna assume it's also for the Ccw nj that nobody gets.

Fpid is the precondition for P2P

I'm gonna assume it's also for the Ccw nj that nobody gets.

 

Citation?

Citation?

hmmn

Idk. I did mine at the same time.

Do you have information otherwise?

You can be issued a P2P without applying for an FID at the same time, or having been previously issued a FID, and you can purchase a pistol from a NJ FFL with only a P2P and no FID (not every FFL may choose to let you do that, but there is nothing, legally, preventing it).

 

That's not how I would recommend going about it (no reason not to get a FID if you're getting a P2P), but it can be done.

You can be issued a P2P without applying for an FID at the same time, or having been previously issued a FID, and you can purchase a pistol from a NJ FFL with only a P2P and no FID (not every FFL may choose to let you do that, but there is nothing, legally, preventing it).

 

That's not how I would recommend going about it (no reason not to get a FID if you're getting a P2P), but it can be done.

My pd always asks for " the card" when I re up for p2p's

 

Honestly I never thought about one vs the other.

Only advice I got was do both at same time( first time).

Interesting.

Regardless, I think based on judge and court this is a ccw

 

Possession in home is not illegal ( unless they are scary and have the evil features). This gentleman has apparently lived in atleast a few States

From a closer look I gathered that he applied for a FPID and a P2P only. Nothing about CCW.

He was denied the FID and P2P by his CPD which he appealed and lost.

 

Somehow I don't think we are getting all the facts here. He apparently has had past serious threats against him

and the state mentioned a fear that he "might take the law into his own hands".  He was asked, if he had a gun would he be prepared to use it?

He responded "yes" and that is being used against him as well.

 

There must be something in this fellows past that he has not revealed in the video nor on his website.

hmmn

Idk. I did mine at the same time.

Do you have information otherwise?

 

You got yours at the same time and so did I.

But nowhere in the law says you must have or get a FPID in order to get a p2p. It is a good idea to do so but it's not required.