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I read that ATF rules and federal law allow a firearms owner to mail long guns he/she already (legally purchased in another state) owns to him/herself via USPS. I am planning on moving to NJ. Are there any state laws or regulations that would bar mailing to NJ legal long guns to the new residence?

Can you move to an adjacent state and commute?   Gun laws are bad for us now, and with the new governor coming in, they’re about to get worse

if the guns are legal here, shipping them to yourself is legal,  to the best of my knowledge.   You can’t address them to anyone else.  

No problem shipping to yourself.  Addressed to you and they are legal in NJ as 10x said.

1 hour ago, 10X said:

Can you move to an adjacent state and commute?   Gun laws are bad for us now, and with the new governor coming in, they’re about to get worse

if the guns are legal here, shipping them to yourself is legal,  to the best of my knowledge.   You can’t address them to anyone else.  

not to mention the utterly ridiculous taxes, and the soon to be illegal sanctuary.

Be aware, the shipper will only ship to a dealer, contrary to the law. So keep your mouth shut.

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Thanks guys....If shipped to a dealer, would the owner need a Firearm's Purchaser ID Card or proof of ownership alone since they are already the legal property of the owner? (Or does shipping to a dealer relinquish the original ownership?)

just outta curiosity....why don't ya just secure them in the trunk as per law, and drive them in?

36 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said:

just outta curiosity....why don't ya just secure them in the trunk as per law, and drive them in?

I could, but would like to avoid it if possible. Does moving the firearms truly provide an exception to the statute?

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-person-who-relocating-out-state-move-firearms-other-household-goods

http://www.njsp.org/firearms/transport-firearm.shtml

1 hour ago, PK90 said:

Be aware, the shipper will only ship to a dealer, contrary to the law. So keep your mouth shut.

It depends on the shipper, and even the individuals you are dealing with.  Some will let you ship guns to yourself.  Some won’t (even if you go in with copies of the relevant laws and shipper policies) so you have to be prepared for that.    

Hi all - have one follow-up question: what is needed to prove you are actually moving when you are driving to the new residence? (Other than having a car filled with personal belongings) Is there a proper way to respond if pulled over or another issue with the vehicle arises?

Are you referring to being pulled over in NJ or another state on the way here? 

Driving to your residence is one of the "exceptions" so you wouldn't even need to prove you are moving necessarily. I wouldn't ever offer up that there are guns in the car regardless tho. Keep them locked and unloaded in the trunk and you are good to go. 

1 minute ago, shooter28 said:

Are you referring to being pulled over in NJ or another state on the way here? 

Driving to your residence is one of the "exceptions" so you wouldn't even need to prove you are moving necessarily. I wouldn't ever offer up that there are guns in the car regardless tho. Keep them locked and unloaded in the trunk and you are good to go. 

In NJ moving things to the new residence. And yes, they'd be locked and unloaded and in the trunk. From the trooper's perspective though, I would assume he/she wouldn't automatically take someone solely on their word without some corroboration. 

In NJ moving things to the new residence. And yes, they'd be locked and unloaded and in the trunk. From the trooper's perspective though, I would assume he/she wouldn't automatically take someone solely on their word without some corroboration. 

Do you get stopped often and your trunk searched?


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10 minutes ago, PK90 said:

Do you get stopped often and your trunk searched?


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My last traffic ticket was in 2004. Never had my trunk searched. I'm a careful driver.....but Murphy's Law combined with NJ's strict laws makes me err on the side of extreme caution.

Secure and move  them per FOPA and don't worry about a thing. Just don't do stupid stuff like getting drunk and sleeping it off on a school yard or bank parking lot.

14 minutes ago, WP22 said:

Secure and move  them per FOPA and don't worry about a thing. Just don't do stupid stuff like getting drunk and sleeping it off on a school yard or bank parking lot.

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Strange question from op.  Just wondering.  

You are WAY over thinking this! Put your  guns in your trunk and go home man!

Does anyone else remember not that long ago the guy asking simple questions and some of us thought he might be trying to game the game?

Thanks for the responses. Again, I would much rather be sure of how things work in the state and then comply appropriately rather than make assumptions.

Plus you never know when something out of the ordinary can happen that makes a simple trip a mess. I had an alternator go out on me on the Los Angeles 101 Freeway once. (During morning rush hour AND on the exit ramp no less)