1 hour ago, Bully said:

Says you...  

I like my 357 defense pistol.  It's pretty!  

Ballistically, rifle rounds and shotgun rounds are much better.  

 

On 1/11/2018 at 5:46 PM, Krdshrk said:

Not saying I wouldn't use it if I had to... but I have my AR and other guns for defense...

AR for home defense is not an optimal choice by a long stretch

 

6 minutes ago, Ray Ray said:

Ballistically, rifle rounds and shotgun rounds are much better.  

 

So, the Marlin Lever gun being re-released is cool!!!

 

46 minutes ago, myhatinthering said:

AR for home defense is not an optimal choice by a long stretch

You sir, are mistaken.  With proper ammo (Soft point, Hollow Point, etc.), .223/5.56 is an excellent choice for inside the home.  The AR is easy to manipulate and shoot, with low recoil.  The projectiles will go through interior walls less than pistol calibers.  http://how-i-did-it.org/drywall/results.html

56 minutes ago, Bully said:

So, the Marlin Lever gun being re-released is cool!!!

 

Cool, yeah.  But for personal protection it's far behind a shotgun, rifle or handgun.

8 minutes ago, Krdshrk said:

You sir, are mistaken.  With proper ammo (Soft point, Hollow Point, etc.), .223/5.56 is an excellent choice for inside the home.  The AR is easy to manipulate and shoot, with low recoil.  The projectiles will go through interior walls less than pistol calibers.  http://how-i-did-it.org/drywall/results.html

No

Just now, myhatinthering said:

No

Elaborate.

The AR is absolutely a viable tool for HD. That’s my primary HD gun.

Superior ballistics

Better chance of hitting what I want

Projectiles loose energy faster after coming into contact with typical US building construction

Your safe backstop is your threat - the bad guy. If you miss, it doesn’t matter what it is, it will penetrate interior and exterior walls. What matters is how fast is loses velocity and mass.

.223/5.56 loses energy and mass faster that pistol or shotgun rounds so your missed lose the ability to seriously injure or kill sooner.

Combine better terminal effects for hits, worse terminal effects for misses, and it’s an easier weapon to shoot and get hits on target. This all points to the AR as a gun that is absolutely appropriate for HD, and in my opinion the superior choice.

But the Marlin being re-released in .357 is awesome.

It would be awesome if the mods could help keep threads on track as opposed to contributing to the problem.

3 minutes ago, Bully said:

But the Marlin being re-released in .357 is awesome.

It would be awesome if the mods could help keep threads on track as opposed to contributing to the problem.

Yes it is awesome. I agree and like I said, I want one.

This is a conversation, like all conversations it is organic. It will wander. Such is life...

1 hour ago, Bully said:

But the Marlin being re-released in .357 is awesome.

It would be awesome if the mods could help keep threads on track as opposed to contributing to the problem.

Threads wander.  As long as it's not completely gone off the deep end, we let it go.  I still do like the look of this rifle and will research it further.  Cuz yanno.  Dinosaurs.

A mares leg would be sweet for them to add to their line up

11 hours ago, fishnut said:

A mares leg would be sweet for them to add to their line up

It wouldn't break my heart either.

 

11 hours ago, fishnut said:

A mares leg would be sweet for them to add to their line up

The rifleman!

To me, a lever gun makes no sense for home defense.  If you want to use a manually operated gun, the 12 gauge pump is faster to reload, easier to work and has far better ballistics.  They are also more reliable.

A handgun is better than a lever gun.

6 minutes ago, Ray Ray said:

To me, a lever gun makes no sense for home defense.  If you want to use a manually operated gun, the 12 gauge pump is faster to reload, easier to work and has far better ballistics.  They are also more reliable.

A handgun is better than a lever gun.

You do realize that there are other uses for guns besides home defence right?

9 minutes ago, fishnut said:

You do realize that there are other uses for guns besides home defence right?

Yes, but the OP or someone said it was good for home defense.

 

I purchased a VERY gently pre-owned original Marlin (manufactured in 1970s).  It was a safe queen.  Part of an estate sale one of my local gun stores purchased.  They told me, and I'm not certain I believe this part, that the owner handled all his firearms while wearing gloves.  It's all wood and steel.  Nothing synthetic on it.  Classic looking. One of my favorite firearms. 

 

15 minutes ago, Ray Ray said:

Yes, but the OP or someone said it was good for home defense.

 

Nope, it was you.

Very Nice!  I also prefer the straight stock Marlin.  Like this:  

On 1/10/2018 at 5:28 PM, Ray Ray said:

Yeah but they work.  And it's a lever gun, like who is using one for self/home defense?

First mention.  

 

FWIW.

12 hours ago, fishnut said:

Nope, it was you.

And I was right.

I want a 10 gauge lever action slug muscle!