Hello everyone,

 

As I mentioned in my intro thread, I have been living outside of NJ for several years, and I have a question about ID cards and permits and whatever else NJ wants to heap on top of me as it pertains to C&R firearms.

 

For a time I did have an 03 FFL (not while in NJ).  It expired and I decided not to renew it.  With an 03 FFL, you can act as your own FFL for firearms that meet the curio and relic guidelines (basically anything older than 50 years, or had some sort of historical significance, and so on).  So things can be shipped directly to you, no background checks, and all that like you were a regular dealer.

 

My question is if I get another 03 FFL while in NJ, can I have a curio and relic firearm shipped to me directly in NJ as I would normally, or does NJ still impose further licencing, ID, and permit requirements on me?  For example, as far as I can tell, a Dragunov meets all the requirements for "not an 'assault weapon'" in NJ, and it is classified as a C&R weapon by the ATF.  Is NJ still going to require me to do anything more than the feds want in order for me to get that shipped to me?

 

Is there a difference between rifles and handguns here?  For example, could I acquire a Nagant revolver or a Tokarov pistol this way?

 

Thank you.

I don't know much but I'm pretty sure that NJ doesn't really recognize the 03FFL license like other states.  I'm pretty sure that you will need to have pistol permits to acquire handguns and that you may not have firearms shipped directly to your home.  I'm sure that I'll get corrected but that is my understanding of it.  I wish you luck and hope your stay in NJ is brief.  

You need a pistol permit for each handgun. There is another post ongoing about this.

19 minutes ago, Bully said:

I wish you luck and hope your stay in NJ is brief.  

Thank you, and I hope so too.  It was a real eye opener living in states not run by insane kleptomaniacs.  I'm dreading moving back but I do believe it is temporary.

17 minutes ago, 1563621 said:

You need a pistol permit for each handgun. There is another post ongoing about this.

This was very helpful, thanks.  I read through that whole thread and from what I gather, handguns are a no-go, but rifles are okay.  Or did I miss something?

 

I suppose it is also worth asking, can an out of state 01 FLL sell me a C&R rifle (assuming I have an 03) and have it shipped to me without further state paperwork or red tape or anything else?  Or is this just from 03 to 03 transfers?

This was very helpful, thanks.  I read through that whole thread and from what I gather, handguns are a no-go, but rifles are okay.  Or did I miss something?

 

I suppose it is also worth asking, can an out of state 01 FLL sell me a C&R rifle (assuming I have an 03) and have it shipped to me without further state paperwork or red tape or anything else?  Or is this just from 03 to 03 transfers?

 

Good question. The way I read the law only longguns can be shipped from out of state to home without further paperwork, but only from FFL03 and only starting October 1st. You must also have FPID.

 

 

My reading of the handguns is it maybe allowed FFL03 to FFL03, but you still must have a PTP and the seller must fill it out. Unlikely to happen so not worth messing with.

 

 

Solution join PAFOA Forums and drive across the border to make handgun purchases.

 

 

As for trading in C&R in NJ there are a few collectors on here. There are more that are not members of this forum.

 

 

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20 hours ago, capt14k said:

You must also have FPID.

I fucking hate this state.

 

Well, looks like this isn't worth it for me given the length of time I plan on being there (as short as possible).  Thanks for the feedback everyone.

21 hours ago, capt14k said:

 

Good question. The way I read the law only longguns can be shipped from out of state to home without further paperwork, but only from FFL03 and only starting October 1st. You must also have FPID.

 

 

My reading of the handguns is it maybe allowed FFL03 to FFL03, but you still must have a PTP and the seller must fill it out. Unlikely to happen so not worth messing with.

 

 

Solution join PAFOA Forums and drive across the border to make handgun purchases.

 

 

As for trading in C&R in NJ there are a few collectors on here. There are more that are not members of this forum.

 

 

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Last I saw there were 187 C&Rs in NJ.

44 minutes ago, 1563621 said:

Last I saw there were 187 C&Rs in NJ.

Down to just over a hundred now.

Down to just over a hundred now.

Both numbers are sad. The number of collectors period is sad.


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