Hi Just asking before I order some.  7.62 10/20 acs mags 

https://www.vcdefense.com/7-62x39-ar15-10-20-california-10-round-magazine-asc/#product-reviews

I could be wrong but I thought that NJ didnt consider rivets alone as "permanently" blocked since they can be relatively easy to remove or break

After researching it , It seems the floor plate would also have to be epoxied in place.

NJ law on "permanent" actually makes no sense.  If you have a mag neutered it must be permanent, but there is really no definition on what that means.  Pre ten round limit, when it was 15, if you got a Glock G17 mag which was 17 rounds you had to have the base plate epoxied to have it be legal - well that is what I heard.  Then about two years ago if memory serves me correctly, Glock came out with factory 15 round mags.  I got a few of those, and wonders how they could be legal.  My conclusion was that if they were legal, it was only because Glock called them 15 round magazines.  You see they are the same physical size as the 17 round mags, they just don't have inspection holes labeled 16 and 17.  If you take the basepad off there is a little free floating plastic block in them that prevents the follower from going all the way down.  If you take that block out and put the mag back together it is a fully functioning 17 round mag.  I asked a Glock rep on the phone and he told me to put the question in writing and they would get back to me.  They never did get back to me.  I always wondered if the socialists in Trenton might decide to go after a gun owner who had any of these claiming they violated the 15 round mag limit as these were not permanently 15 round mags. 

agree, if you need any tool or will break a part of the mag making it not legal, then it's legal.   did I say that right?  lol

On 11/15/2018 at 9:46 AM, Howard said:

If you take the basepad off there is a little free floating plastic block in them that prevents the follower from going all the way down.  If you take that block out and put the mag back together it is a fully functioning 17 round mag.  I always wondered if the socialists in Trenton might decide to go after a gun owner who had any of these claiming they violated the 15 round mag limit as these were not permanently 15 round mags. 

A bunch of the restricted mags I've seen have been done this way, by different suppliers, and were claimed to be "NJ Compliant".. The baseplates could be removed and the blockers taken out. Even Glock seemed to think it was acceptable.

On 11/15/2018 at 9:46 AM, Howard said:

NJ law on "permanent" actually makes no sense.

The only thing I know that's truly "permanent" is death.

 

in the past the metric was can it hold more than 15 rounds.. didn't matter how it was sold or labeled or anything like that... also there was a letter I would have to really dig that talked about mag modifications.. 

does anyone have the actual text of the law as it is now?

10 hours ago, Sniper22 said:

A bunch of the restricted mags I've seen have been done this way, by different suppliers, and were claimed to be "NJ Compliant".. The baseplates could be removed and the blockers taken out. Even Glock seemed to think it was acceptable.

The only thing I know that's truly "permanent" is death.

 

Not really the dead still seem to be voting for the democrat's.