Bought a spring-piston pellet gun on a whim and need to upgrade the scope.  The gun is a Marksman .177 cal, and actually shoots pretty good now that I have it broke in and found pellets it likes. 

It is not an expensive gin, paid around $80 for it with the scope, the scope is so bad that I can either focus the reticle or the target but not both.

Anyone have any recommendations on a scope, since it is a spring-piston I have heard that the scope needs to be rated for that type of gun? 

Thanks!

80$ for gin is expensive 

4 minutes ago, Golf battery said:

80$ for gin is expensive 

Must be some good, aged stuff!

I think you’re fine with any rifle scope. Tasco and bushnell comes to mind. Recoil is what puts a scope to the test. And your pellet gin has unmeasurable recoil.

cheers

I've always heard that you DO need a scope rated for spring-piston airguns, because the action produces an (admittedly mild) forward, then backward recoil impulse, and normal scopes aren't built for the forward recoil component.

That said, I've never put a scope on a spring piston gun, so I can't recommend one.

1 hour ago, 10X said:

I've always heard that you DO need a scope rated for spring-piston airguns, because the action produces an (admittedly mild) forward, then backward recoil impulse, and normal scopes aren't built for the forward recoil component.

That said, I've never put a scope on a spring piston gun, so I can't recommend one.

Balderdash! Poppycock and rubbish!

19 minutes ago, Zeke said:

Balderdash! Poppycock and rubbish!

You're wrong Zeke,. They do require a scope rated for the double impulse imparted by a spring powered air gun. Just do a little Googling and you'll find that stated over and over again. They don't have to be expensive, just made to specifically be resistant to that double impulse.

Adios,

Pizza Bob

51 minutes ago, Pizza Bob said:

You're wrong Zeke,. They do require a scope rated for the double impulse imparted by a spring powered air gun. Just do a little Googling and you'll find that stated over and over again. They don't have to be expensive, just made to specifically be resistant to that double impulse.

Adios,

Pizza Bob

That’s dumb! This is a BB gun!

Check the Bushbell Rimfire line of scopes, I believe they were rated for it? 

55 minutes ago, Zeke said:

That’s dumb! This is a BB gun!

The key words in the OP are "spring piston". If you think scopes specially rated for air guns is BS, why don't you offer to reimburse the poster if he uses a non-rated scope and it destroys itself?

Adios,

Pizza Bob

20 minutes ago, Zeke said:

That’s dumb! This is a BB gun!

A springer air rifle is not the same as a Red Ryder BB gun or pump air rifle.  Springers have both rear and forward recoil.  Additionally, the recoil is not the same as compared to a center fire rifle.  With a center fire rifle, the recoil results from gasses escaping the muzzle, but on a springer, the recoil is mechanical and much sharper.

The recoil from a springer is more like tapping the scope at both ends with a hammer.  There is also a torque component.  Because the piston is under the scope, it jolts the scope up and down.

Sure, a springer does not pound your shoulder with 25# of recoil, but the dynamics of recoil from a springer are more complicated.

BSA makes cheap springer rated scopes.  Hawke makes better scopes but they ain't cheap.

 

 

 

43 minutes ago, Pizza Bob said:

The key words in the OP are "spring piston". If you think scopes specially rated for air guns is BS, why don't you offer to reimburse the poster if he uses a non-rated scope and it destroys itself?

Adios,

Pizza Bob

That’s even dumber. My advice is free

43 minutes ago, Scorpio64 said:

A springer air rifle is not the same as a Red Ryder BB gun or pump air rifle.  Springers have both rear and forward recoil.  Additionally, the recoil is not the same as compared to a center fire rifle.  With a center fire rifle, the recoil results from gasses escaping the muzzle, but on a springer, the recoil is mechanical and much sharper.

The recoil from a springer is more like tapping the scope at both ends with a hammer.  There is also a torque component.  Because the piston is under the scope, it jolts the scope up and down.

Sure, a springer does not pound your shoulder with 25# of recoil, but the dynamics of recoil from a springer are more complicated.

BSA makes cheap springer rated scopes.  Hawke makes better scopes but they ain't cheap.

 

 

 

I get harmonics. But g force from a 300 win mag vs an $80 pellet gun

7 hours ago, Scorpio64 said:

A springer air rifle is not the same as a Red Ryder BB gun or pump air rifle.  Springers have both rear and forward recoil.  Additionally, the recoil is not the same as compared to a center fire rifle.  With a center fire rifle, the recoil results from gasses escaping the muzzle, but on a springer, the recoil is mechanical and much sharper.

The recoil from a springer is more like tapping the scope at both ends with a hammer.  There is also a torque component.  Because the piston is under the scope, it jolts the scope up and down.

Sure, a springer does not pound your shoulder with 25# of recoil, but the dynamics of recoil from a springer are more complicated.

BSA makes cheap springer rated scopes.  Hawke makes better scopes but they ain't cheap.

 

 

 

Well yes...and no.

Recoil in a firearm is determined by the total ejected mass (bullet and powder)  with a factor thrown in for velocity.  Not just the gases.  You can use a muzzle break to mitigate this recoil to some degree.

Recoil in a spring powered air gun is different as you get a foreward recoil from the release of the spring and a rearward recoil (as with a conventional firearm) from the total ejected mass. The pellet in this case.

I have heard of scopes rated for spring powered guns.  I have an inexpensive spring gun that gives an honest 1000 fps.  This probably is enough to take out a squirrel although I haven't tried it.  I have an inexpensive 22 rf scope mounted on my inexpensive spring gun that has worked fine for the several.hundred rounds I have put through the gun.

I would guess one would need a scope designed to deal with the forward recoil in a more powerful spring gun.

Just my experience.

16 hours ago, Zeke said:

That’s even dumber. My advice is free

Yes, but when you give bad advice, or put forth incorrect information or opinions that cost people money, it doesn't exactly engender a warm & fuzzy feeling in the community. All it would have taken on your part was a simple Internet search instead of the pushback at those who did the research and knew. Just sayin'

Adios,

Pizza Bob

4 minutes ago, Pizza Bob said:

Yes, but when you give bad advice, or put forth incorrect information or opinions that cost people money, it doesn't exactly engender a warm & fuzzy feeling in the community. All it would have taken on your part was a simple Internet search instead of the pushback at those who did the research and knew. Just sayin'

Adios,

Pizza Bob

I agree with Grizz.