TB,

 

I've heard nothing but good about Springer. Right now though, it's my HD go to gun and I kinda like it stock for that use (only). If I find a good HD replacement (other than the 12 ga) I'd consider the springer and a 9mm conversion barrel.

 

 

 

 

This topic was spun off of the Shore Shot threadTBtrout

Why would you not want a trigger job on a HD gun? It is just like adding night sights or anything else to make it easier to shoot. Not to raz you, I am curious.

Why would you not want a trigger job on a HD gun? It is just like adding night sights or anything else to make it easier to shoot. Not to raz you, I am curious.

 

Prosecuting attorney's potential argument to the jury "Perp set out to be a killer, lightened the trigger beyond factory spec's, etc..."

 

That's why many people won't use reloads in a HD gun...

 

That's why many people won't use reloads in a HD gun...

 

I never heard of this before ... what could be the possible repercussion?

The theory behind it is you make your own special super killer better than anything factory could make because we will litigate the hell out of them bullets. When you are on the witness stand for protecting your family.

 

 

 

That's why many people won't use reloads in a HD gun...

 

I never heard of this before ... what could be the possible repercussion?

The theory behind it is you make your own special super killer better than anything factory could make because we will litigate the hell out of them bullets. When you are on the witness stand for protecting your family.

 

That's my gripe all the time. Why does law abiding citizens who gets violated by an intruder sometimes get caught by the long arm of the law?

 

Why can't they just allow the sale of tazers (the type police use) for home defense in NJ?

 

Why do homeowners who choose not to fatally shoot an intruder gets sued by the intruder when he survives the ordeal?

 

All I want to do is protect my family. I wish "at the least" we should have a similar law in NJ like the castle doctrine.

 

Then again why am I still in NJ? I should move out. LOL

That's my gripe all the time. Why does law abiding citizens who gets violated by an intruder sometimes get caught by the long arm of the law?

 

Why can't they just allow the sale of tazers (the type police use) for home defense in NJ?

 

Why do homeowners who choose not to fatally shoot an intruder gets sued by the intruder when he survives the ordeal?

 

All I want to do is protect my family. I wish "at the least" we should have a similar law in NJ like the castle doctrine.

I agree 100%. This is an issue that makes me furious. Someone breaks into my house, attempts to take what is mine, possibly putting my family in harms way.. But I should flee and not protect myself (which could be more dangerous). I have no intentions of going on the aggressive with an intruder, but if they should happen to make it to the steps coming up to the second floor (where we sleep).. I guess I will be in court as a defendant :x

Now that there is a thread dedicated to home protection..

 

Who here has an alarm system? Which monitoring agency, and what features do you think work best?

I do, I use secure-all monitoring, they are a good company and have been around for years. Besides the usual motion / window / and door sensors, I really like having a seperate keypad in my bedroom upstairs. If the alarm should go off, it tells me what zone is triggered. I also have it hooked up if the alarm goes off or the panic button is pushed the outside lights flash on and off...this makes the police/fire/ems locate my house quickly. I also have a remote control to arm it and dis-arm it to make things handy...so many people have alarms installed and dont use them because of the 'hassle'. Goes nice with my biometric deadbolts!

Now that there is a thread dedicated to home protection..

 

Who here has an alarm system? Which monitoring agency, and what features do you think work best?

 

I have an alarm system in the house.

 

I use DSC Envoy and its components for the hardware then use https://nextalarm.com/index.jsp for monitoring.

 

The monitoring goes through my broadband connection.

 

I like this particular hardware because it speaks. I don't have to look at the panel to know where the violated zone is. It'll say something like "Basement Motion Sensor" out loud then starts wailing .....

 

Like the above post, I have a remote to arm and disarm it. Since I'm lazy activating the alarm I have it programmed to automatically arm itself at 11:00 PM. My family knows that they can't be on the main floor or basement at that time. Everyone has to be upstairs.

 

Oh and maybe you can call me paranoid but I have installed a hardwired phone in all the rooms (bathrooms, bedrooms, living room etc etc) aside from my wireless phones.

Personal security to me is something that's personal, that's part of what makes it secure, no?? The internet gives many a false sense of anonymity, but Maksim can tell you via IP, what town you live in the first time you post something.... The web is not 'safe' and is not 'anonymous', no matter how one or the other might feel.

 

So, security system - sorry, I won't discuss it .

LOL!!! I was just thinking the same thing. However my house is very secure. To include 2 dogs. So if someone was dumb enough to break in and get to the second floor I too guess I would be in court.

Yea,

 

I have 5 guard dogs. 200 pounds and all trained to kill. My security system includes many items including poison arrow blow dart hallways like in Indiana Jones

 

and to top it all off a mote full of Croc Men (part Crocodile part man)

 

and if you get past all that I am a pretty good shot.

Yea,

 

I have 5 guard dogs. 200 pounds and all trained to kill. My security system includes many items including poison arrow blow dart hallways like in Indiana Jones

 

and to top it all off a mote full of Croc Men (part Crocodile part man)

 

and if you get past all that I am a pretty good shot.

 

And I thought wiring all access points and avenues of aproach with claymores was over doing it.

Prosecuting attorney's potential argument to the jury "Perp set out to be a killer

 

That has been urban legend for twenty years or so. No one has backed it up with fact.

 

The bottom line is that a lawyer is there to win. They will attempt to use any and all methods to do so. I would expect nothing less. So can the method on manufacturer be brought up? Possibly if the judge deems it admissible and relevant. They could bring up the shirt you were wearing, the grips on the firearm and the color of your front door. But it doesn't mean it will be admitted, nor have an outcome on the verdict.

 

Most with any sense don't use reloaded ammo just because factory ammo is just more reliable.