With all of the division in this country, I thought it might be appropriate to re-read what Lincoln had to say 157 years ago:

"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate—we can not consecrate—we can not hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

tyranny

South should have been allowed to leave. If you can voluntarily join a union, you should be able to leave.  Lincoln, by all rights, was tyrannical threatening to disband the SC, knowingly calling up reserves forcing the South to secede and much more.  States rights were usurped.

unfortunately, I think it was the only way however to end slavery

I thought biden was elected senator 157 years ago today.    Or was it 180.  Hmmm

32 minutes ago, Golf battery said:

I thought biden was elected senator 157 years ago today.    Or was it 180.  Hmmm

Didn't he turn 120 today, isn't today his birthday?

 

On 11/19/2020 at 11:30 AM, RUTGERS95 said:

tyranny

South should have been allowed to leave. If you can voluntarily join a union, you should be able to leave.  Lincoln, by all rights, was tyrannical threatening to disband the SC, knowingly calling up reserves forcing the South to secede and much more.  States rights were usurped.

unfortunately, I think it was the only way however to end slavery

this sadly is relatively accurate. 

On 11/19/2020 at 11:30 AM, RUTGERS95 said:

tyranny

South should have been allowed to leave. If you can voluntarily join a union, you should be able to leave.  Lincoln, by all rights, was tyrannical threatening to disband the SC, knowingly calling up reserves forcing the South to secede and much more.  States rights were usurped.

unfortunately, I think it was the only way however to end slavery

The South, essentially the South Carolinians, should have freed the slaves - then fired on Sumter.

States rights matter, and what the Anti Federalists feared came to fruition and is true today more than ever.

When I hear politicians talk about majorities, and majority shall rule...i think to Jefferson.

 

Thomas Jefferson, third President of the United States, expressed this concept of democracy in 1801 in his First Inaugural Address. He said,

All . . . will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect and to violate would be oppression.

 

https://www.annenbergclassroom.org/glossary_term/majority-rule-and-minority-rights/