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If the Democrats thought that illegals would vote Republican, you'd be able to see The Wall from space.

Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government! Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!

‘All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.’

The SAPPA CASE CAN'T FAIL WE CAN'T LOSE ! Sound familiar?

Now I see the violence inherent in the system!!

Well... as long as you're all feeling so generous, let me share this urgent news blast (forgive the lack of video - I left my GoPro at the office): I hereby claim my place as the newly appointed Empress of the World, ready to lead you to Salvation! Now please open your wallets and give me your cash. (... is it working yet?)

they've apparently really found the 68gt that steve mcqueen drove in bullitt. it looks like she lived in nj for a bit....then got driven to death then stored.......but......they %^%E#$^% found it. if she really is the real thing, they've changed the steering wheel, as in the movie she wore a grant wheel.....\ \ https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2018/01/14/mustang-bullitt-found-real-mcqueen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY4JEjcZ3H0

You'd be labeled a domestic terrorist. The public masters have learned to chip away a little at a time, and it is always in the name of "safety" to avoid revealing their true tyrannical nature.

Once they propose, pass and/or enforce unconstitutional laws which strip me of my rights, they are no longer my countrymen.

Fair enough. And I don’t think anyone has said they wouldn’t support him if his claims are true. At the same time you have to acknowledge that he has a history and credibility concerns that need to be addressed to those from whom he seeks support.

Yeah, I agree. Actually, there's some benefit to NOT communicating about certain things - because it raises more questions than answers - or - it makes the stakeholders that you're dealing with nervous about your powers of discretion and they could pull away. You just reminded me though... wasn't Roubian just a few months ago complaining to the press that ANJRPC was (gasp!) meeting "privately" with then-Lt. Governor Guadagno? He was ticked off as I recall like it was some horrific crime. Now he seems to be doing the exact same thing, but crowing about it... or am I remembering that wrong? Irrelevant I guess. The point is, all these organizations should be meeting with legislators on one front but putting together legal action on another front ... and because those are both sensitive matters, only a fraction of it should be publicized at all - and only well after the fact. Just my (personal & professional) opinion! Ha! Does that mean your wallet is empty already? Dammit! Foiled.

Believe it or not the majority of stuff that gets stolen in our area somehow finds its way to Newark. the guns are probably already being sold.

Ammoland

It seems like about a year after I joined here the focus largely shifted from expanding NJ gun rights to getting the F out of NJ. We have had a lot of people leave. Many are probably not going to see this poll to vote, but I'd like to know where people generally stand. I threw in some cop options in the poll only because this place is crawling with cops and many are probably less inclined to leave due to working towards pensions and already having a great deal of relief from NJ gun laws. I think that makes a huge difference in whether or not a gun owner plans to leave in the next 5 years.

Jeebus, we bitch about a group that doesn't do anything or enough and then we bitch about a group that does something but not they way we like.....holy shit, as long as someone is out there doing work on behalf of our 2A interests I'm happy AND thankful. Don't think these groups are immune from politics, it comes in all shapes and sizes, even the state legislators can eat their own. Let them do their own thing, mix it up at least it's an attack from different fronts. All hands on deck!

I have no problem with one man, um, taking one for the team. As long as it’s part of a consistent and successful strategy.

* How are coordinating with other 2A orgs and is everyone on the same page and committed to the same strategy? it would go a loooong way to have a joint statement from the various orgs on these new bills and their publically releasable strategy.

Those are great questions! That's why communications is as much art as science. It really depends on the situation... and your audience. My concern is: I would rate the audience (us!) right now as being a fairly desperate one, and understandably so... who can blame us?. That's a concern, because we're more likely to follow ANYONE promising salvation. Even if it's just a "hook" that's just looking for donations (I'm not saying that's what this is - I honestly don't know). My main concern is: does he think we're the only ones that might look at the NJ2AS website or Facebook page? Aren't these legislators going to look too? And when they see all the "gotcha" tapes - is that a disincentive for them to negotiate in good faith? So yeah, this promotion might look great to SOME, but to ME... I worry that it was a miscalculation. I'd also like to know the following: who the other board members are... because the only face/name I ever see is Alex's (and hell, he's his own cameraman now apparently) - so who's on the Board, what are their backgrounds, and what do they do? what has the retention/attrition of board members been? What do former board members have to say about the org? what do the financials look like & how is the money being used? etc. Call me a killjoy, but those are the kinds of things I personally want to know about ANY organization before I fork over my hard-earned money. I don't expect an organization to share their strategy (loose lips sink ships) but I do like to hear TANGIBLE facts! I'm very disinclined to be drawn in by "promotion" - again, it's probably because of my work background. But, I'm just one person... with one opinion... and I'm not always right (by a long shot)!

I had the exact same thought - they called out ANJRPC for the "behind closed doors meeting" with Guadagno, yet here they are getting all innuendo-ish with their behind closed doors dealings. Whatever, we all have to move beyond past squabbles. We need every...single..advocate and friend we can get.

Of course.

]Yes he was the one complaining about secret meetings. I agree with keeping plans guarded. What I disagree with is half revealing things. When teasers are ran it is usually for promotional purposes. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I already have one of those. She hits me up every payday.

Work it sis...

That video said a whole lot of nothing. Secret Legislators who are going to stop certain bills with their magical powers. Hopefully I am wrong, but until I hear names, what bills exactly, and how, I am leary of anything said. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

OMG, you so caught me! I generally despise it... as you know. I will find a more ladylike example next time. I promise! (Now give me your money, dammit!)

I abhor bathroom humor....

Cause the Flyers used them as a Zamboni last game... jus sayen

in that leather catsuit it just might, lolololol

You poor bastards stuck behind enemy lines have a whole lot to start worrying about. From your new fearless and brainless leader. Murphy can piss up a rope if he thinks he is going to start getting PA's laws changed just because who he thinks he is. We have our own Anti gun Gov and AG who haven't been able to do a god damn thing without getting slapped down over it. Good luck on trying to amend the PA state Constitution, and god be with the good people of NJ who didn't ask for this or deserve it.

I hope the above is true and not just self-aggrandizing. I also hope they’re going in with a no-compromise approach from the get-go. Hopefully they can change and refocus this energy to areas that would actually reduce CRIME and not just screw over people who legitimately following the laws. Hope, change.....hmmmmm

They didn't write it or even come up with it. It was given to them to introduce, otherwise all the bills would say Loretta Weinberg on them.

And that’s as dumb as a Shockwave! ” Who’s calling?” ” ND” ” Nd who?” ” I dunno, I dindo nuffin, pulled trigger an nuffin “

They also deserve a ton of credit for getting the recent pardons for that person from FL and Meg Fellenbaum from PA

I am happy to see Alex in Trenton from day one and before fighting proactively instead of waiting for all the bad shit that we know is coming and then complaining about it! I continue to support NJ2AS because they are not afraid to fight in every way they can. I love that they use hidden cameras and microphones and OUT those antis that so deserve to be outed! If you are not yet a member, please join up now! They are fighting for us and we need their help now more than ever! This includes you Mrs. Peel!

I will have faith...until it is time not too. Broadcasting here or on faceboom what is planned makes zero sense at all. That would be like broadcasting military plans on open air channels without Cyphers etc. Have faith.... In the meantime, prepare for the worst...make ur plans. ..I have been for two years..... moving the collection around, preparing for the day things I want to keep maybe illegal here to move elsewhere. ... And when you can get out there is an upside...if we get a few hundred thousand gun owners put of this star and relocate elsewhere it might just help another state ! Maybe we are at dunkirk..... pardon my sad attemempt at humor....during a very dire time. But in their darkest hour the populace had the strength of lions - so should we.

I closed on a property in Mount Pocono recently. The neighbors seem great so far. Lots of people shooting in their yards, hunting, etc. There is no HOA and these folks seem like they've lived there for a while. House is located on a dirt road easement. It was difficult to find something not part of a HOA. I am unsure of how will I renew my Bayonne parking permit with a PA license and registration. I own a home in Bayonne and plan on keeping it also due to family and work obligations despite spending more time in PA. The block I live on recently went to resident only parking and even with proper NJ documents it wasn't an easy process. They wouldn't accept my vehicle registration because the corner of the paper had a tear in it, which meant a trip to the DMV, then back to City Hall. I wonder why I don't have these problems when it comes to paying my property taxes.

The only way it would work here is if it a release type of trigger so it is a firearm not a rifle or machine gun.

locks much like laws are only for honest people.

I don't see how getting broken into is poor planning. That is victim blaming.

That's fine and that's a car thing. Mike and I were talking about a people being friendly thing. With your attitude, you and NJ are "Perfect together" Just like the commercial. Stay and be miserable.

The SBR version is quickly making it's way to the top of my "first SBR purchase list" when I move. First things first- suppressor then SBR

I do not disagree but the solution is predicated on many operative words - of which the key one being *IF* - and we all know that if in this state is as sure as a nope not gonna happen. Wish in one hand and Sh*t in another and see what ya get first. The only solution is to stymie this all with as many legal challenges as possible and hope that they go ape shit with as many egregious items as possible - to bring - here is that if and wishing again - to a higher court. @capt14k has been right all along. Beyond 2A - and to resonate what @Mrs. Peel has stated there is a very big chance that our property values will tank - based on other times such as taxation etc. And a very very real converstaion has happened with my wife about selling our home and just renting till we can pop smoke and exfil this unfriendly location.

If 100K 2A rights activists showed up in Trenton, on the same day (that's important) it would be HUGE, uge even. We would have National attention. Problem is, showing up to demand our rights is too much of a bother. Actually, that's wrong. If the NRA, GOA, Second Amendment Foundation, JPFO, NAGR, ... The list goes on. There are actually 15 National 2A organizations And then all the NJ 2A groups. If they could all get together and put all of their expertise and some money into it. Really make an effort to contact all NJ gun owners and organize Supreme Court worthy law suits.... If they did that, they could get 100K 2A supporters in Trenton. It's absolutely doable, but, sadly, it will probably never happen. We need leadership, without it there is very little will.. I have to say. Being forced to join the NRA so you can join a club to use their range, well, it sorta feels like taxation without representation. You are forced to pay, if you want to join the range, but you get nothing from the NRA in return except some stickers and a piece of made in china crap. If we can't make Trenton sweat, maybe we need to make the NRA sweat. Call them out for their inaction in NJ.

They don't work.....when people queue upon Trenton in rain and snow.... and lawmakers look out windows at you and laugh.... been there done that a lot of us got tshirts..... No offense meant but noob the only thing these jackboot thugs will i understand is being slapped with subpoenas injunctions and suits.... calling....letters ....marches mean diddlysquat......

Tell them to take their .22s shove them where the sun doesn't shine. They're part of the problem.

No, that's not sappy... it's well-stated. Moving is both a loss and a gain at the same time, but right now, there's bound to be more of the loss for you... and a bit of mourning, too. I suspect though, once your outta here, the sadness will soon fade... you'll be one of those relaxed, grinning escapees that chimes in on these forums now and again to say, "oh, you poor, poor fools... still in Joisey are you?" Once you're finally out, you'll be happy. The escapees always are... aren't they? (Dammit.) Congrats on your closing... and your exciting new life chapter! I hope you chime in on here now and again... with tantalizing tales of Free America.