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I sent this to every one of them!...... Dear NJ Assembly Official, I am but one of over one million lawful gun owners in our state. ALL of the bills you are considering on Monday do NOTHING to prevent crime. They do however further erode the 2nd Amendment rights of law abiding gun enthusiasts. I realize fully that I am wasting my time with this email and none of your minds will be changed but as a former member of the U.S. Navy, I swore an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America and I will NOT break that oath! You swore the same oath to enter the office you hold. You too should honor the oath you swore! Below is the gist of an email sent to us by the ANJRPC, (Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs), The NRA representatives for our state. They took the time to explain the very bills you will be considering and why they are ineffectual in reducing gun crime. Please rethink your stand on these bills and remember the oath you swore. Making a million NJ responsible gun owners Felons overnight with the stroke of a pen will accomplish absolutely nothing to thwart criminals! A2671 (Magazine Ban / Gun Ban) - Turns one million law-abiding gun owners into criminals with the stroke of a pen - no grandfathering, no option to render pre-owned magazines "compliant." Makes no one safer (criminals will ignore), has no impact on mass attacks (magazines can be changed rapidly, 10-round magazines were used in previous attacks). Makes citizens less safe by limiting their ability to defend themselves against criminals who ignore the limit. A1217 (No-Notice Suspension of Gun Rights) - Allows secret suspension of Second Amendment rights and firearms seizures with no advance notice or opportunity to be heard. Turns due process on its head. Creates a slow, cumbersome, go-to-court "solution" for emergencies that should properly be dealt with by police immediately under their community caretaking powers. Makes no one safer, could make us less safe by delaying government response to a true emergency. A1181 (Allows Suspension of Gun Rights by Unaccountable "Health Professionals") - Allows marriage counselors, social workers, nurses, and others to cause suspension of gun rights, and firearms seizure and forfeiture without compensation, if they think someone poses risk. Creates a slow, cumbersome "solution" for emergencies that should properly be dealt with by police immediately under their community caretaking powers. Makes no one safer, could make us less safe by delaying government response to a true emergency. A2758 (Kills Self-Defense) - Cements NJ's unconstitutional "justifiable need" carry permit standard into statute to prevent most law-abiding citizens from ever exercising the right to self-defense with a firearm outside the home. Makes it easier for predatory violent criminals and the mentally ill to victimize citizens. Not only does NJ have no legal obligation to keep individual citizens safe, it is now blocking the right of average citizens to protect themselves. A2759 (Bans Ammunition That is Already Banned) - Bans the SS190AP (armor piercing) military round, which is already banned under federal law (18 U.S.C. 922(a)(7) and (8)) and is not available to civilians. Completely redundant with existing law, changes nothing, makes no one safer - pure feel-good legislation that only makes headlines. It's a hardware ban that criminals will ignore. Lawmakers should instead severely punish the criminal misuse of ANY type of ammunition. A2757 (Background Checks on Sales That Already Require Background Checks) - Eliminates private sales of firearms, which (unlike most other states) already require state-mandated paperwork and either an FID card or pistol purchase permit - both of which require an extensive background check prior to issuance. Will be ignored by criminals, who do not submit to background checks in the first place. Only impacts honest citizens, who are not the problem. Zero impact on public safety. Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely,

if all the gun owners actually showed up and voted phildo wouldn't be in office. and we could have anything we want.

ANJRPC TONIGHT! ANJRPC ON CHASING NEWS & OTHER MEDIA UPDATES ANJRPC is appearing tonight at 11p.m. on WWOR-TV's Chasing News with host Bill Spadea. Please tune in to watch ANJRPC Executive Director Scott Bach discuss the Lacey Township high school issue, and New Jersey's redundant and outdated permitting system. Tune in to WWOR-TV (Ch. 9, in the NY metro area) watch it live online here: http://www.my9nj.com/live or download the My9 streaming app here: http://www.my9nj.com/…/download-the-new-chasing-app-from-my9 Also, the Lacey High School story has gone viral nationally. While the volume of news coverage is too overwhelming to list completely, here is a representative sample: Click the link below for all media links and the online version of this alert: https://anjrpc.site-ym.com/page/ANJRPCOonChasingNews -Fox News -Breitbart -The Blaze -The New American -The Lars Larson Show (Dan Schmutter interview) -News 12 New Jersey (Dan Schmutter interview) -NJ 101.5 -NRA-TV (Bach interview) Please forward this email to every gun owner you know, and if you don't already receive alerts from ANJRPC, please subscribe to our free email alerts for the latest Second Amendment breaking news and action alerts: https://anjrpc.site-ym.com/?Email_Request About ANJRPC: The Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs is the official New Jersey affiliate of the NRA, and is New Jersey's oldest, largest, and most effective Second Amendment advocacy organization. Click the link below for all links and the online version of this alert: https://anjrpc.site-ym.com/page/ANJRPCOonChasingNews

Man, you sound so quick to throw in the towel! Why on earth would you post a disheartening title like that at such a critical juncture in this fight? We're only a few months in on a 4-year battle and you're defeated already?? I'm by no means a pollyanna, but I do know the one thing all politicians share in common is that they want to get voted in again during the next election. The anti-gun folks know that an angry, engaged opposition is not good for them at the polls (even if they have MORE constituents, many don't vote). Why do you think they're already scaling back some of the proposed gun control legislation? It's because angry constituents showed up, that's why! And you don't think they're well aware of the press this Lacey Township case got? They're afraid of poking a sleeping tiger. Maybe not Murphy himself, who no doubt (foolishly) thinks he has a shot at higher office, but the careerists like Sweeney may think twice before diving in fully on anti-constitutional laws that could get overturned by a higher court while whipping up the opposition against him. One thing is for sure, if we give up... it will definitely get FAR WORSE! So, to brass tacks... have you requested this Monday off? Did you arrange a bus ride or carpool yet? Or will you be spending that day drowning yourself in defeatism? Do yourself a favor, go read some stories and quotes by John Paul Jones or Patrick Henry... good people to study up on when you're thinking about quitting. Find some fortitude! Sheesh. The Founding Fathers must be rolling in their graves right about now.

“ he who controls the media, controls the world “....

Turns out I had the wrong application packet. I talked to the trooper in charge today. If you already have a FID card, you do the background check online for $20 and don't need to be fingerprinted again. Another tragedy averted.

You can't make this up

Don't know if you guys saw this. Just saw the email ANJRPC is appearing tonight at 11p.m. on WWOR-TV's Chasing News with host Bill Spadea. Please tune in to watch ANJRPC Executive Director Scott Bach discuss the Lacey Township high school issue, and New Jersey's redundant and outdated permitting system. Tune in to WWOR-TV (Ch. 9, in the NY metro area) watch it live online hereor download the My9 streaming app here. Also, the Lacey High School story has gone viral nationally. While the volume of news coverage is too overwhelming to list completely, here is a representative sample: Fox News Click here. Breitbart Click here. The Blaze Click here. The New American Click here. The Lars Larson Show (Dan Schmutter interview) Click here. News 12 New Jersey (Dan Schmutter interview) Click here. NJ 101.5 Click here. NRA-TV (Bach interview) Click here. Please forward this email to every gun owner you know, and if you don't already receive alerts from ANJRPC, please subscribe to our free email alerts for the latest Second Amendment breaking news and action alerts.

Been in the battle for quite some time since the early 90's...but the battle never changes, it's a viscious circle of ...them trying to disarm us and we complain a lot or file a legal action....IMO, nothing changes in this state for our benefit unless the Fed. gets involved.

Mrs. Peel, While I can not make it to the rally on Monday, my heart and soul are with those that attend. I have never given up the fight, but through history there are examples of an Offensive Retreat to fight another battle another day. There WILL be other rallies which I can attend. I am sorry to see from some members that if you do not attend this rally you become the enemy . Divide and conquer is a method in use since the beginning of man. I am this forum to be connected with fellow NJ gun members. I have read more of your posts than I can count, and do see how involved and how passionate you are on this subject and how much work you actually do. Admittedly, I don't come close to how much time you put into this work. I still have magazines from the last ban that seem to have been lost during that time period and were discovered after the ban was over. We will prevail in the final showdown in the court system. On past occasions I have marched on Washington, been beaten with Police and National Guard batons, tear gassed an held for 4 days to be released with no charges in the end. Government is for the People, not the Politicians who believe are above us and have more rights than we do. Sorry for the extended rant, but I do want you to understand that I am with you and not against you. For those who want to believe I have given up the fight, sorry for the miscommunication.

Well, if I was a little harsh... it's only because i was hoping there might be some small vestige of fight left in you that I might be able to "spark". I'm only sorry it didn't work. As far as my personal efforts, well... even though that was a deflection, I'm totally fine with my efforts. In the last 90 days, I've spoken to my Congressman's office twice, I've both emailed and called the White House, I've written to all the members of the NJ commission that was reviewing this heinous pending legislation, and I've emailed the CEO's of Dick's Sporting Goods and a few other cowardly purveyors of sporting goods. But again, let's not make this about me.... And if you have some unique insights about the Lacey situation, please share! I'm all ears. I'm sure we'd all love to hear. Look, I'm not trying to pick a fight with you... I'm really not! I'm merely pointing out that when others are gearing up for battle, it's more than a bit ill-mannered to run up and down the battlefield crying, "lost cause! don't bother!" Maybe you can see my point, maybe you can't.

So I guess that means we won’t be seeing you in Trenton on Monday then?

Watch out for tactical weiner dog Kryptonite. The wood burning stove. It has some kind of force field that prevents them from leaving its perimeter

Call. Email. Fax. Write letters! We need to have them feel the heat! See you Monday in Trenton. https://anjrpc.site-ym.com/page/AntiGunBillstoAssem

I betcha they do indeed! Hell, I'm what most consider a 2A Leader & I don't even know where they all are leaving from, lol! If I don't need ta know then NONE of you do! It's only Wednesday, so instead of worrying about SH!T that ya don't need ta know RIGHT NOW, get on the phone and rile-up friends & neighbors so THEY COME TO TRENTON TOO! Make USE of yer valuable time instead of pissing it away with yer OPINIONS (OMG, did I just type THAT??)!

Peeple tellz me sum times I am very many smart. @Smokin .50 I fixed that post for ya buddy. I think that's what you really meant to say.

^^^THIS^^^ I just got off the phone with Iggy Ortega an hour or so ago. The exact location of buses is a well-guarded secret so no one gets to disrupt our plans. This trip requires Joe Gun Owner to stop bitching & just SIGN-UP! I realize it's hard for forum members to NOT HAVE AN OPINION, but that's exactly what's needed right now!

I commented in the fb group that if they want people to actually go they need to put the location. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Both Your hand doesn't fall on the forend naturally so it feels awkward. Aimming is subjective, but verticle foregrips on pump guns suck.

Guys Buses here !!!!Buses to Trenton Rally

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Ok then.

Funny, I was watching "the news" and the reporter was talking about the Russian election, if that's what you want to call it. The reporter was saying that Putin has a huge amount of support by Russia, something like 75%. They pan back to the studio and the guy says something like "don't ever underestimate the power of state run media." Like, that's not what's happening in the U.S.? The gubbmint runs them and allows them to operate with relative impunity. They offer benign or favorable reporting on the effectiveness of the gubbmint thereby convincing the populace to approve and enact their will. Gah!!! I'm not a tin foil hat wearing kind of guy, but c'mon!!!

Depends. If you call the media these lieing talking heads the spew any bullshit for ratings then no. If you include the incredible influence the internet giants have in the media mix then I guess yes.

Rememeber: they FUCKING HATE YOUR GUTS

Well that’s the media.. yes/no?

Too true.

In today’s age it’s more like “He who controls the internet controls the world.” And that would be Google.

Keep in mind almost all of these guys know how they’re voting already. The vote on the floor is just part of their dog and pony show. A large turnout will help to curtail future votes and hopefully show the voters they are alienating.

I am moving on April 2 and I am using Allied Simonik out of Bound Brook. I'll let you know how it goes after they unload and I see how they did. They are picking up on April 2 and delivering on April 6th. Some companies charge extra if they are busy to have a delay like this, so check with them. Good luck.

I just emailed. Thanks, @gunforhire, for posting. I trust the next phase will be more lawsuits... and I look forward to that.

Over $1K STI Trojan Under $1k Springfield RO I have the Trojan and it is my workhorse IDPA ESP gun. Make sure to order the Tripp Cobra Mags and you are good to go for factory ammo. Lighter reloads may need a recoil spring swap. STI customer service has been good as well

Have always used United. All 26 times

I used United for both of my long moves. Costs a little more but reputable company and no problems.

That's my point. Getting these pigs off their thrones is the only thing they'll understand. They don't give a shit about taxes, school shootings, rights, budgets or anything else except getting a county park or parkway rest stop named after them. I don't care which party they're in. They only care about themselves and their legacy. As long as they get their special license plates and the streets they live on plowed first they don't care how they vote as long as it's a vote of the current mood of the people that will vote them in for another round of dinners and headlines in their honor.

I have a GSG5... pre-lawsuit. Love the gun. But I also swapped furniture out for H&K parts, so it is freaking heavy (MP5 solid stocks are heavy)! While I had no issue trading my 10/22 Takedown for my TAC-14, don’t think I could get rid of the GSG5. H&K slap is just too much fun (I do have a buffer to protect the handle).

At least he got to point out that repeated background checks are done. There's so many people ignorant to that fact. So many I talk to that think there's no backgrounds being done at all thanks to the mass media talking heads claiming it. But he really should have had more that 2 mins of time.

Got mine. $1 custard upgrade too.

Dairy Queen by me is giving free small cones.

There's only one rule in a fight......WIN !!!!

And tee shirt cannons and, and, a foam machine, and chicks in tee shirts covered in foam.

10/22 is a great all around .22LR. Can be had for $200 when there are sales.

Lower providence rifle and gun club. Media pa? Icore has been around for a while. Based out of ca. Figures with their gun laws. Lprgc just got affiliated with icore last fall. Due to the sucky winter weekend weather this was the third icore match they held. 20 or so revolver enthusiast participants. Great time. Any questions about it let me know. Or. Pizza bob. Hes a lot more knowledgeable on revolvers than i am. I like stock stuff. My scores reflect it.

Tell them its not necessary to keep getting reprinted because your prints never change and Dick Tracy told us so and he knows his shit! [emoji6] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Another vote for Dan Wesson - PM9

if itll be your one and only 1911 in 9mm id make it a nice one. a dan wesson valor/vbob come to mind